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satorino

02/18/08 7:44 PM

#41235 RE: Neutral Man #41233

NM

You got the r2 number wrong. might want to correct it from 42 to 44.
i enjoy your posts.

by the way what is your elo?

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GLENO34

02/18/08 7:56 PM

#41239 RE: Neutral Man #41233

NM..Unless the futures fall away some ovenight, the Q's will open up around 44.47..Hopefully that will be a good shorting area..
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Neutral Man

02/18/08 8:00 PM

#41242 RE: Neutral Man #41233

MarOE Stuff, Take Duex (R2 corrected to 44.92)?

Absolutely Marvel-ous, can we be sooo LUCKY dat da-Boyz will give us a Gift first thing outta da-Gate and take prices higher, how COOL would dat Bee!

We’ll use ANY attempt by da-Boyz to tag the R2, 44.92, to Get Serious SHORT and we’d consider it a personal GIFT if day, da-Boyz, be so kind, NOT!

People… this is a FIVE week OE with ONLY 23 trading days since we have TWO Holidays tucked in dis-OE period! This portends some FUN things to come as da-Boyz paint pictures of Sugar Plums dancing in da-Bulls Heads and we’ll use said picture painting to ready for the Compulsive Cascading Exhaustive Capitulative Discount Wave that is sure to Follow ANY move higher!?

We start this MarOE period with 80 Mar41 call contracts controlling 8k shares and we be MOST Pleased if da-Boyz be so BOLD as to give us a B-E-A-utiful SHORT-ing opportunity, YOU GO BOYZ!

Btw ALL, there are MANY Prognosticators and EVERYone has an opinion, good for them! But we be here to make YOU Money and could care less about being Right or Wrong, as a matter of fact, we be wrong plenty of times but being able to ascertain said "Wrong-ness" is our specialty, and being able to hedge said probable "Wrong" outcome is in our Charter! Therefore we go forward every day posting our trades in Real time, many times in advance using price triggers, then add-em up each day, then tallying the Final Numbers to confess for ALL to see the Good , da-Bad, and da-Ugly!

OE Pivot, 43.82, close on 15Feb
High, ??.??, up 0.0%
Low, ??.??, dn -0.0%
Close, 43.82, dn -0.0%
Spread, 0.00
PM, 0.0%

We start today with the following Open OE Port positions:

Short positions (expecting the Q’s to go Down), controlling 0k shares
Nada, Nuttin, Zippo, Zero

Long positions (expecting the Q’s to go Up), controlling 8k shares
Mar41 calls at 3.495, (80 contracts), bought long

This gives us a Net Long da-Q's bias going into today and we'll use said Bias to play intraday Short plays to protect our Core positions and to post gains in an effort to minimize our pending losses on Open Positions.

These intraday plays are strategic in nature and will help us post profits that will off-set our losses incurred during this OE period as we HOLD Core positions indefinitely (see below side notes, Pending Gains/Loses)!

DCB (Dead Cat Bounce or NOT)
Not Exactly… we expect a move lower before we get the Launch EVERYONE is expecting? What will get our attention, the ability of the Q’s to Close above the R2, 42.92, otherwise it’s just a B-E-A-utiful Shorting Opportunity if prices climb above the R1, 44.37?

Btw…if you don’t play Chess then I suggest you STOP trading immediately and go learn da-Game, da-Chess game dat is! But don’t stop dare, stay away until you can actually BEAT someone at Chess. Otherwise, as most players who read to learn vs. actual experience, you’ll have learned just enough to lose your SorryAsskie life Savings, Get-it, Got-it, GOOD!

Side note (Pending Gains/-Losses):
These gains/losses will post when positions are removed and/or expire!

Pending -Loss(s)
Mar41 calls (80) at 3.495 – 3.42 (closing $) = -0.075 x 8 = $-0.60

Pending Gain(s)

Net gain/-loss pending for above open positions at the close = $-0.60

This pending gain/-loss(s) is dependent on our ability to navigate this OE period with the utmost precision in regard to da-Boyz! Not to worry, we suspect da-OEPM factor will shed some light on da-Boyz and their Footprints of meaning (True intentions), LOL!?

Gain/-Loss History:
JanOE, $10.40 (up 20.2%, $10.40 into 51.85 = 20.2%)
FebOE, $18.28 (up 40.3%, $18.28 into 45.35 = 40.3%) ($36.50 in gains less $18.22 in losses)

For your viewing pleasure da-OEPM 4cast-r says.....?

Date Open High Low Close
15-Feb 43.77 43.98 43.45 43.82
4cast
19-Feb 43.81 44.51 43.75 44.37
20-Feb 44.30 44.92 44.28 44.76

And in da-Spirit of da-Boyz club and their House rules, we remain committed to being BOTH Long and Short at the same time so as to be READY and ABLE to meet-em at whichever lines they decide suits their fancy and at a time and/or day of their choosing (Ohhhhh BOYYYYOYZ, come, and, GET US, LOL)!?

In summary, YOU GO BOYZ and do your thing, but remember this, we got your Back, Front, and any other side you choose to expose as you paint dem dare pictures, I guess Boyz will be Boyz now won’t They, LOL!?

Good trades ALL,
nm

BONUS OE STUFF, Remember – the CLOSING price tells ALL in regard the OEPM factor!

R8, 48.2, 10%
R7, 47.65, 8.75%
R6, 47.11, 7.5%
R5, 46.56, 6.25%
R4, 46.01, 5%
R3, 45.46, 3.75%
R2, 44.92, 2.5%, Serious Resistance and a GO Short level this week!
R1, 44.37, 1.25%
Pivot, 43.82, 0.0%
S1, 43.27, -1.25%
S2, 42.72, -2.5%, Our Primary Target this week
S3, 42.18, -3.75%
S4, 41.63, -5%, Serious Support and a GO Long level if tagged!
S5, 41.08, -6.25%
S6, 40.53, -7.5%
S7, 39.99, -8.75%
S8, 39.44, -10%

Most importantly, ARE you having FUN YET, I know I am!

FYI - we post EVERY trade in real time and in many cases post pre-trade sell and buy orders with trigger prices in anticipation of our 4cast! So ENJOY da-Show as we rat out da-Boyz club and have a little FUN while we're at it (I hope da-Boyz don't read dis-post otherwise they'll be GUN-ing for us - AGAIN, LOL!

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bittersweet

02/19/08 9:04 AM

#41262 RE: Neutral Man #41233

Senior Neutrality,

Do you realize how many folks would sign on to an options trading service headed by you? Seriously, it would not be that difficult for you to find a software engineer to fashion a real time/automated system which incorporated your methodology for trading options. I see that you have 44 people on IHUB that have member marked your posts. Even Blasher who has admitted that he is a “probable/possible” convert to your approach has 80 member marks; this alone says volumes about your abilities. I’ve been reading a lot about options trading after being intrigued by your posts. Until now I haven’t felt at all comfortable w/ my limited understanding of options, but I DO believe that options trading is by far less risky than what I’ve been doing, that is to say, trading stocks primarily going long w/ many losers along the way! I believe you said you’re 47 years old, well, you’re still very young and able to make WAY more money than you have been if you chose to enter into the venture I posited. You’re very gifted and have your little niche here, but you’re limiting yourself and putting a ceiling on your financial possibilities. I’m 50 years old and wouldn’t think twice about signing on to a service w/ you at the helm. I’ve been evaluating your moves, your honesty and all else w/ respect to your “record” in trading. You’ve been accurately and honestly “up front” w/ your positions in REAL TIME, which is almost unheard of, for this I commend you!

I belong to a service which recommends numerous stocks a day for trading, I almost always end up choosing the wrong one to trade. You said it right in one of your posts, and I'm paraphrasing, it's easy to throw out a number of possibilities and focus on the one that worked "after the fact", but it's another thing all together to single out one move and then sink or swim w/ the outcome. In other words, I see you putting it all out there for anyone to scrutinize as you're confident in what you do!!!
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Neutral Man

02/20/08 7:27 AM

#41448 RE: Neutral Man #41233

MarOE Stuff?

Ouch, Can you say “Forget about it”, because if you’re using TA, Charts, Fibs and/or Lies, you might as well “Forget about it”!?

There will be Few Play-ar’s that survive da-Boyz wrath and I suggest MOST Play-ar’s just “Step Aside Please. Please Step Aside”, LOL?

As expected higher prices were short lived and lower prices should dominate this week’s action. Our Primary Target this week is the S4, 41.63, or the down -5.0% marker. That said, we’ve already tagged the R1, 44.37, and even got as high as 1.6% above the OE Pivot, 43.82 so a move down to 41.63 will give us a weekly PM of 6.6%, Awesome and a great start to the MarOE!

People… this is a FIVE week OE with ONLY 23 trading days since we have TWO Holidays tucked in dis-OE period! This portends some FUN things to come as da-Boyz paint pictures of Sugar Plums dancing in da-Bulls Heads and we’ll use said picture painting to ready for the Compulsive Cascading Exhaustive Capitulative Discount Wave that is sure to Follow ANY move higher!?

Btw ALL, there are MANY Prognosticators and EVERYone has an opinion, good for them! But we be here to make YOU Money and could care less about being Right or Wrong, as a matter of fact, we be wrong plenty of times but being able to ascertain said "Wrong-ness" is our specialty, and being able to hedge said probable "Wrong" outcome is in our Charter! Therefore we go forward every day posting our trades in Real time, many times in advance using price triggers, then add-em up each day, then tallying the Final Numbers to confess for ALL to see the Good , da-Bad, and da-Ugly!

OE Pivot, 43.82, close on 15Feb
High, 44.50, up 1.6%
Low, 43.27, dn -1.3%
Close, 43.74, dn -0.2%
Spread, 1.23
PM, 2.8%

We start today with the following Open OE Port positions:

Short positions (expecting the Q’s to go Down), controlling 0k shares
Nada, Nuttin, Zippo, Zero

Long positions (expecting the Q’s to go Up), controlling 8k shares
Mar41 calls at 3.495, (80 contracts), bought long
Mar47 puts at 3.19, (Quad), sold short

This gives us a Net Long da-Q's bias going into today and we'll use said Bias to play intraday Short plays to protect our Core positions and to post gains in an effort to minimize our pending losses on Open Positions.

These intraday plays are strategic in nature and will help us post profits that will off-set our losses incurred during this OE period as we HOLD Core positions indefinitely (see below side notes, Pending Gains/Loses)!

DCB (Dead Cat Bounce or NOT)
Not Exactly… we expect a move lower before we get the Launch EVERYONE is expecting? What will get our attention, the ability of the Q’s to Close above the R2, 44.92, otherwise it’s just a B-E-A-utiful Shorting Opportunity if prices climb above the R1, 44.37? In da-Meantime we keep our eye on the S2, 42.72, the S3, 42.18, and the S4, 41.63, as we believe there’s more Pain ahead for Bulls!

We posted Good gains yesterday as we traded in and/or out of Both puts and/or calls intraday and unloaded for same day profits. Hence our MarOE profits increased by $1.60 to $1.60 as we started the day with $0.00 in profits!

Btw…if you don’t play Chess then I suggest you STOP trading immediately and go learn da-Game, da-Chess game dat is! But don’t stop dare, stay away until you can actually BEAT someone at Chess. Otherwise, as most players who read to learn vs. actual experience, you’ll have learned just enough to lose your SorryAsskie life Savings, Get-it, Got-it, GOOD!

Side note (Pending Gains/-Losses):
These gains/losses will post when positions are removed and/or expire!

Pending -Loss(s)
Mar41 calls (80) at 3.495 – 3.27 (closing $) = -0.225 x 8 = $-1.80
Mar47 puts (40) at 3.19 – 3.73 (closing $) = -0.54 x 4 = $ -2.16

Pending Gain(s)

Net gain/-loss pending for above open positions at the close = $-3.96

This pending gain/-loss(s) is dependent on our ability to navigate this OE period with the utmost precision in regard to da-Boyz! Not to worry, we suspect da-OEPM factor will shed some light on da-Boyz and their Footprints of meaning (True intentions), LOL!?

Gain/-Loss History:
JanOE, $10.40 (up 20.2%, $10.40 into 51.85 = 20.2%)
FebOE, $18.28 (up 40.3%, $18.28 into 45.35 = 40.3%) ($36.50 in gains less $18.22 in losses)
MarOE, $-2.36 ($1.60 in gains less $-3.96 in losses)

For your viewing pleasure da-OEPM 4cast-r says.....?

Date Open High Low Close
15-Feb 43.77 43.98 43.45 43.82
19-Feb 44.39 44.50 43.27 43.74
4cast
20-Feb 43.55 44.36 42.79 43.27

And in da-Spirit of da-Boyz club and their House rules, we remain committed to being BOTH Long and Short at the same time so as to be READY and ABLE to meet-em at whichever lines they decide suits their fancy and at a time and/or day of their choosing (Ohhhhh BOYYYYOYZ, come, and, GET US, LOL)!?

In summary, YOU GO BOYZ and do your thing, but remember this, we got your Back, Front, and any other side you choose to expose as you paint dem dare pictures, I guess Boyz will be Boyz now won’t They, LOL!?

Good trades ALL,
nm

BONUS OE STUFF, Remember – the CLOSING price tells ALL in regard the OEPM factor!

R8, 48.2, 10%
R7, 47.65, 8.75%
R6, 47.11, 7.5%
R5, 46.56, 6.25%
R4, 46.01, 5%
R3, 45.46, 3.75%
R2, 44.92, 2.5%, Serious Resistance and a GO Short level this week!
R1, 44.37, 1.25%
Pivot, 43.82, 0.0%
S1, 43.27, -1.25%, Already tagged intraday 19Feb, Whatda!
S2, 42.72, -2.5%, Our Primary Target this week
S3, 42.18, -3.75%
S4, 41.63, -5%, Serious Support and a GO Long level if tagged!
S5, 41.08, -6.25%
S6, 40.53, -7.5%
S7, 39.99, -8.75%
S8, 39.44, -10%

Most importantly, ARE you having FUN YET, I know I am!

FYI - we post EVERY trade in real time and in many cases post pre-trade sell and buy orders with trigger prices in anticipation of our 4cast! So ENJOY da-Show as we rat out da-Boyz club and have a little FUN while we're at it (I hope da-Boyz don't read dis-post otherwise they'll be GUN-ing for us - AGAIN, LOL!