darwindows, you keep acting like deep down is a subprime mortgage lender or a boring, low-growth widget maker. why not compare us to a shoe store or a feed lot? ignore what doesn't compute for your thesis, like the high costs of R&D on revolutionary products. focus on net profits rather than EBITDA. always live in the trailing twelve months world. never look forward. account for all shares used in deals but never add the revenues of the acquired companies to the top line. raise the constant specter of dilution when growth is accretive. ignore dahlman rose, whose numbers are approximately 10 times higher than yours. act as if short selling is a fairy tale. never watch the tape if it could indicate a turnaround. focus on the worst numbers in the weakest filings, and try to convince people the stock is going into the .20s... keep dreaming, keep trying. and best of luck.