Replies to post #298787 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[seabass]

>>>Many Islamist's blame their hatred of us on supporting Israel.<<<


Bin Laden October 29, 2004

"But after the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American sixth fleet.

And as I was looking at those towers that were destroyed in Lebanon, it occurred to me that we have to punish the transgressor with the same -- and that we had to destroy the towers in America so that they taste what we tasted, and they stop killing our women and children."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/bin.laden.transcript/

[Let's Roll]

Well, let's see...you like to talk out of both sides of your mouth.......so which side are you talking from now? We all know how you are!!

[ieddyi]

So, we should adjust what we think is the correct thing to do by how the islamists view it??

OBL gave as his view that the US having troops in Saudi Arabia was the root cause for his jihad.

We're gone now- has AQ stopped their jihad??

To tailor our behavior to their 13th century world views would be absurd.

I'm sure the role of women in our society offends them also. Should we make our women wear burkhas as well?

Israel is a democratic oasis in that part of the world- they are a natural ally

[rollingrock]

they are the only democratic
government in the ME. Of coarse Iraq will be the second.

[brainlessone]

many islamists. yes they say that to be divisive. its kind of like saying there is more terrorism than there used to be, because the USA is in Iraq. is there any rational proof, irrational sugggestion or even a whiff of plausibility to assume that islamists would be happier if we withdrew support from israel, and then they killed everyone there?

islamists have been killing millions for centuries, hasnt changed them a bit, they always find a new group to want to kill. look at what they did in India in eastern europe and in russia/caspian sea, and greece and constantinople. not to mention the holy land, tunisia, spain and southern france.

probably the reason islamists killed 20000 people in Aleppo was because they knew that Israel would exist 100 years later