Alpha; Are you saying 30 mil hasnt went thru JF's greedy little fingers?? Be careful i know this answer and can and will retaliate....And wont even hafta do the free 2 week thingy with ihub to gather it all up..... But i answered your querry now answer mine and we'll cut that number in half just to show ya i'm fair... 15 million 23000 sub's that's 650 dollars a sub all the cash is gone nothing but the printing press left...now brag on that.... .....Not trying to mislead anyone i'm a bagholder from way back and cannot see anyway for JF to save this co, only fatten his wallet all the way to the bitter end... ed