itrade4profit2, All those CEO's are snakes. Especially the ones that need money from the sell of shares to pay their salary's. J F is a great example. I don't see him as a wonder CEO that can screw with CD's and end up on the right side of the fence. As has been stated, not enough subs and not enough recognition due to poor marketing. Maybe the new advisors can come up with something to pull J F out of the sand.