Replies to post #554378 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[blackhawks]

I remembered the movies I'd seen in the 50's as I was taught about Homer in my 60's HS class.

As for 'everyone assumed Achilles and Patroclus were a gay couple'? Not in Hollywood and not in my parochial school classrooms. Though I could imagine a scene with Patroclus admonishing Achilles to stop being such a heel. THAT would heat up the subject!

How did the teaching of the Iliad and the Odyssey in the 1950's go hand in hand with the movies on that subject?

In the 1950s, teaching the Iliad and the Odyssey was complemented by the release of several movies based on these epics, which helped bring the stories to a wider popular audience. Films such as the 1954 movie "Ulysses," starring Kirk Douglas, portrayed the Odyssey's adventures with key scenes like the encounter with the Cyclops and the Sirens, providing a visual and dramatic interpretation that enriched students' understanding of the epic narrative.

These movies served as an accessible entry point for students and general audiences who might not have been deeply familiar with the original texts, thus reinforcing the cultural presence of these classics during that decade.

The 1956 film "Helen of Troy," based on both the Iliad and the Odyssey, similarly offered a dramatized version of the Trojan War and its aftermath, combining elements of both epics into a cinematic experience that reflected the epic's themes of love, war, and heroism.

These film adaptations, though not always historically or textually precise, emphasized the excitement and drama of the ancient stories, making them more engaging for students and viewers unfamiliar with Homeric literature.

Educationally, the films and teaching often went hand in hand by using the movies as a tool to spark interest and help students visualize the characters and events from the epics. The movies helped bridge the gap between ancient oral traditions and mid-20th-century popular culture, making the classical stories feel relevant and vivid.

This approach was particularly important in the 1950s when direct classical education was less common and movies were a major form of popular entertainment.

Thus, in the 1950s, the teaching of the Iliad and the Odyssey and the production of movies on these subjects worked in tandem to promote and sustain interest in these foundational Western texts, each supporting the other by providing different but complementary ways to access the epic narratives and their themes in war, heroism, and human experience.[1][2][3][4]

Perplexity.ai

[1](https://www.greekmyths-greekmythology.com/odyssey-on-film-television/)
[2](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047630/)
[3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_of_Troy_(film))
[4](https://screenrant.com/best-movies-greek-mythology-fans-ranked-300-hercules-clash-titans/)
[5](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeric_scholarship)
[6](https://www.ebay.com/itm/174416338838)
[7](https://www.facebook.com/JosephCampbellFoundation/posts/this-bonus-episode-the-iliad-and-the-odyssey-was-recorded-at-sarah-lawrence-coll/1290301309123402/)
[8](https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/collex/exhibits/homer-print-transmission-and-reception-homers-works/childrens-homer/)
[9](http://journaldialogue.org/issues/issue-1/o-homer-where-art-thou-teaching-the-iliad-and-the-odyssey-through-popular-culture/)
[10](https://www.colorado.edu/asmagazine/2023/11/28/iliads-alien-familiarity-gets-makeover)
[11](https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1171&context=dialogue)
[12](https://www.reddit.com/r/literature/comments/qlvk0b/the_value_of_odyssey_and_iliad_aside_from_their/)
[13](https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicalEducation/comments/hts7l4/this_is_our_family_copy_of_the_iliad_and_the/)
[14](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad)
[15](https://christintheclassroom.org/vol_27/27cc_241-260.htm)
[16](https://greekreporter.com/2025/08/28/movies-greek-mythology/)
[17](

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[18](https://classicalu.com/courses/reading-and-teaching-the-odyssey/)
[19](http://esiculture.com/index.php/esiculture/article/view/1170/595)
[20](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_(1954_film))

[janice shell]

lol, I did a bit more reading, and I'd forgotten: Achilles and Patroclus played a bigger role in the Iliad than in the Odyssey. But that was in college. We didn't do the Aeneid, because of course it's Latin, and from much, much later. Aeneas played a bit part in the Iliad, but didn't come into his own till Virgil got to work.

In the end, Aeneas and a few vanquished Trojans who escapes the burning city. They end up as the ancestors of the Romans.

His marriage to Dido, Queen of Carthage, ended badly.

[janice shell]

And here's a bunch of stuff from Jay Kuo at The Status Kuo. I'll post the best.

https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/just-for-skeets-and-giggles-112925?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=283462&post_id=180217859&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1kxqrv&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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