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valuemind

10/25/25 12:20 PM

#127146 RE: valuemind #127145

Another two Tesla's bright spots Researcher59 missed out:
9) The Tesla Model Y regained its position as Europe's best-selling car in September 2025, after beat down cries from left biased legacy media and many smarts here for 8 months;
10) Musk spent his own $1 billion in buying Tesla shares lately, and he gets zero dollar no risk salary. What GM and F CEOs do beside milking fat risk free salary and free company shares and selling them?

Long term investors have true love in the companies they invest, whereas smart traders have no love except heir own trading account.
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littlefish

10/25/25 12:31 PM

#127147 RE: valuemind #127145

TSLA and Musk: “true patriot Musk advocated cutting inefficiency, waste and government bureaucracy…”

Musk is in it to suckle more taxpayer dollars away into his innovations and visions projects of the future to get in front of other rich people in tech industry. As self serving as any of them IMO, history has shown us this.

All IMO only.
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researcher59

10/26/25 6:51 AM

#127153 RE: valuemind #127145

TSLA (433) Q3 was unique because it was the last quarter when buyers were able to get the $7,500 federal tax credit. So there was a big surge in orders that won't be repeated. Q4 should benefit a little bit from the Q3 orders since that's when the deliveries will occur. Q1 will be more challenging.

Why not look at the 9 month y/y results rather than just Q3, which was unique ?

Total revenue down 3%
Gross profit down 9%
Operating income down 47%
Net income down 41%
Operating cash flow up 8%

I think TSLA is a risky hold now at $433. I like the company very much, but I think the shares are overvalued. Bulls say it is an AI and robotics play deserving of a high PE. Perhaps that is true, but a PE of 190 based on FY26 estimates seems too high. After all, the AI leader is NVDA with a forward PE of just 29.

GM remains undervalued, imho, but has always had a low PE and does have substantial debt as you pointed out. I might sell part of my position soon and buy back lower.

F is more fully valued and I will probably soon sell my entire position, hoping to buy back lower.
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bbotcs

10/27/25 6:59 PM

#127192 RE: valuemind #127145

valuemind; Robots are going to make other robots.
The gap between the haves and the have-nots is getting worse. Are robots going to have 401K's?
Ever hear of the French Revolution? And then there is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room--AI.
Amazon is eliminating 600k jobs, probably worldwide, if what you hear on TV is true.
The next President will be the candidate who runs on stopping AI. But in 3 years, it might be too late.
Oh, by the way. The job market is terrible if you are unemployed and seeking employment.
There is widespread job insecurity, and people are staying put in their jobs
Then today we learn that your boy is seeking shareholder approval of a potential $1T, "T" as in Tesla, pay package.
How noble of him not to take a salary.