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fuagf

06/25/25 8:38 PM

#531796 RE: rooster #531791

rooster, Ok your "I post the truth about the border being open and you post the lie that’s it’s not kind of takes care of itself right there" is a totally non-responsive lie, and a blatant disregard to the warning of restraint i gave you recently. Repeat:

rooster, You have been told too many times -- Biden Didn’t Cause the Border Crisis, Part 1: Summary
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From his administration’s first day in January 2021, Biden actually increased border enforcement—arrests, detentions, and removals of border crossers all increased. The prevailing narrative that blames Biden overlooks the real causes of the crisis: America’s robust labor market and bad immigration policies that incentivized illegal entries. However, Trump, not Biden, mostly started those policies. Biden eventually phased out some of them; he increased legal migration, and as the labor market cooled, the problem dissipated.

Summary

The main takeaways are:

* Illegal immigration had already increased to a 21-year high before Biden entered office.

* Biden immediately started increasing expulsions from his first day in office.

* Biden tripled interior detention and increased border detention 12-fold.

* Biden increased air removal flights by 55 percent over 2020 levels.

* Biden negotiated broader expulsion deals with foreign countries than Trump.

* Biden got many foreign countries to carry out crackdowns on illegal and legal migration.

* Biden removed or expelled 3.3 million border crossers—three times as many as Trump.

* Biden even managed to remove a similar percentage of crossers as Trump’s four years.

Despite Biden’s historic crackdown:
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Myth vs. Truth: Dissecting the Republican narrative about the border
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175787609

Att: conix, The false statements and half-truths about immigration that were told in the second Republican presidential debate
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174314490

Now we know you know, without question any more Biden open border bullshit from you will be considered a lie from you.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=176350846

Yet, there you are a mere two days later, willfully refusing to responsibly comment
on a post given to you, and worse, willfully lying to readers of this board. Yet again.

You leave us no option but to again send you away to consider your responsibilities
to this board, and your responsibilities as a decent American citizen.

With apology to those who enjoy having you around as a punching ball, you are gone again. Six weeks for now.
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blackhawks

06/25/25 9:05 PM

#531800 RE: rooster #531791

'Open borders' is hyperbolic bullshit that the GOP uses to politicize something, comprehensive immigration REFORM bills, that they routinely torpedo.


Immigration reform bills vetoed by the GOP?

Several immigration reform bills aimed at border security and immigration enforcement have been vetoed or blocked by Republican lawmakers, reflecting deep divisions within the GOP and between the parties.

Key Points on GOP Vetoes and Opposition to Immigration Reform Bills:

In early 2024, a bipartisan Senate immigration and foreign aid bill was developed with support from Senate leaders including Mitch McConnell, but it was overwhelmingly rejected by Senate Republicans, with only four GOP senators voting for it. This bill included measures to enhance border security and reform asylum processes but was opposed by former President Donald Trump and many Republicans who viewed it as too lenient or as incentivizing illegal immigration. The bill failed to advance due to a Republican filibuster.

Senate Republicans, under pressure from Trump and conservative factions, blocked a bipartisan border security bill in May 2024 by filibuster, with nearly all GOP senators voting against it. This occurred despite earlier GOP leaders endorsing a compromise bill, which they later abandoned due to political calculations and Trump's influence.

The failure of these bills is tied to the GOP’s internal divisions and the political influence of Trump, who campaigned heavily on border security but rejected compromises seen as insufficiently tough. Senate Minority Leader McConnell’s influence waned as Republicans aligned more with Trump’s hardline stance, leading to the collapse of bipartisan efforts.

The history of immigration reform shows a pattern of failed attempts due to the challenge of reconciling enforcement with legalization. The last comprehensive reform was nearly 40 years ago under Reagan. The recent bills aimed at enforcement without legalization were unusual but still failed due to GOP opposition, signaling a missed opportunity for immigration reform in 2024.

In some states, such as North Carolina, Republican lawmakers have pushed to override gubernatorial vetoes of immigration bills, indicating ongoing partisan battles at state levels as well.

Summary:

Republican opposition, heavily influenced by former President Trump and conservative hardliners, has resulted in the veto or blocking of several immigration reform bills in the 2023-2024 period. These bills, often bipartisan and focused on border security and asylum reform, failed to gain GOP support because they were perceived as insufficiently strict or as enabling illegal immigration. The House GOP passed a more aggressive immigration bill (H.R. 2), but it lacks Democratic backing and has not become law. This deadlock continues the long-standing challenge of passing comprehensive immigration reform in the U.S


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