Replies to post #517448 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

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Yeah, and...?

Thus, this debate provides an accurate account of the framers' original intent regarding the role of the Bill of Rights' criminal procedural guarantees in the impeachment process. All participants in the debate who were involved in the framing of the Constitution, as well as the Senate as a whole, determined without qualification that impeachment is not a criminal process and is thus not subject to constitutional criminal provisions. The Senate, however, is free to decide that such provisions should apply to impeachment, because each house of Congress determines its rules of proceedings. The Senate, however, is not bound by the U.S. Constitution to apply criminal procedural guarantees to impeachment proceedings. 118 footnotes

Impeachment is a political process. If you need anything to emphasize that point, you can review the overwhelming evidence presented in each of trump's impeachment "trials", and the absolutely mockery of reasoned argument made by his attorney's... after which he was acquitted.

But none of that has anything to do with this discussion, and this is as far into the weeds as I'm going to be dragged here.

The original statements were.

"Our side needs to start peppering all the courts with treason charges against muskrat and cheeto mussolini. "

"But they can't stop us from filing and putting things on record and making it public that half the congress is willing to prosecute their president. "

What the hell does that even mean? My response was simply that "our side" does not have the ability to charge anyone with any crime at all, let alone treason. That privilege belongs to the DOJ, and they're part of the current administration.

The statements themselves would appear to be the product of hallucination. They represent (to the point of the bizarre), a profound misunderstanding of the process, and of reality itself.