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02/18/25 8:18 PM

#514157 RE: fuagf #514152

The biggest jerk in the country



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jbsliverer

02/18/25 8:44 PM

#514163 RE: fuagf #514152

A little more on that subject.

Now, we know that there’s huge waste in Medicare, in the form of overpayments to Medicare Advantage plans .. https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/medicare-versus-the-insurance-industry . Through Medicare Advantage insurance companies have been gaming the system; the Medicare Payments Advisory Commission estimates the annual loss to taxpayers at more than $80 billion, that is, roughly twice USAID’s budget. Oddly, however, this clear example of gigantic fraud isn’t on Musk’s radar.



From the Guardian, one of the better ones left.

UnitedHealth Group resists shareholder proposal on delayed and denied care
Proposal calls on company to prepare reports on ‘macroeconomic costs’ of health insurer’s practices
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/18/unitedhealth-group-resists-shareholder-proposal-delayed-denied-care


And then there is this interesting study. There are more studies coming out now in many fields of medicine with discussion and analytical studies on the savings buying scripts from the open market rather than going through paid insurance policies or Part D Medicare. Plenty of people experiencing the same, including my wife and I with Express Scripts through her employer's insurance, and many people that I talk to that have Part D or employers medical insurance. This study is by the American Urogynecology Society and specifically with Mark Cubans CostPlusDrugs.

https://journals.lww.com/fpmrs/fulltext/9900/the_mark_cuban_cost_plus_drug_company_effect_on.344.aspx

Urogynecologists treat a variety of conditions that range from pelvic organ prolapse to pelvic floor and voiding dysfunction to treatment of recurrent urinary tract infections. Many of these conditions are chronic in nature and require treatment with medication. An often overlooked part of urogynecologic care is an attention to cost, both to the payer and to the health care system. Our study sought to investigate the potential savings by purchasing prescription drugs using pricing from Cost Plus Drugs instead of Medicare. Our study found that use of this program specifically conferred instrumental savings for drugs used to treat urogynecologic conditions, and specifically for vaginal estrogen, which is widely used (although some may argue is not used enough) and has an inherently high cost.

Prescription drug costs contribute significantly to health care expenditure in the United States. Cost Plus Drugs is a novel program that has tremendous implications on costs savings for prescription drugs. Our study demonstrated purchasing drugs used to treat urogynecologic conditions through this program conferred significant savings over purchasing through Medicare. This is especially important as many of these drugs are used to treat chronic urogynecologic conditions.

The U.S. health care costs rank among the highest in the world with a reported $4.5 trillion spent in 2022, accounting for 17.3% of the Gross Domestic Product. For context, this amounts to $13,493 per person annually. Medicare spending was reported to be $944.3 billion, representing 21% of total national health expenditures. A significant portion of Medicare spending is due to the cost of prescription drugs, which represented $405.9 billion in 2022. Additionally, this rate is increasing every year, with an 8.4% increase from the previous year (2021), up from a 6.8% increase the year prior (2020).1

Prescription drugs often have a “mark-up” in their cost that results from several factors, including monopolistic pricing for patent-protected drugs from large pharmaceutical companies and lack of Medicare negotiating power.



We reviewed all generic drugs provided by MCCPDC that were commonly used for the treatment of urogynecologic conditions as determined by author assessment (N = 16). For each of the 16 drugs we identified the MCCPDC prices as listed on the MCCPDC website, for the minimum 30- and maximum 90-count quantities. We then also calculated the 2021 Medicare spending for the 16 drugs as listed on the Medicare Part D database.3 The potential savings were calculated as the difference between MCCPDC and Medicare 30- and 90-count prices, multiplied by the volume-adjusted number of units dispensed to Medicare beneficiaries in 2021.

RESULTS

The total 2021 Medicare cost incurred for these 16 drugs was $860,758,140.00. The total cost of those drugs through MCCPDC calculated using the total 2021 Medicare volume was $398,382,648.47 and $241,924,289.66 for 30- and 90-count pricing, respectively. The total estimated savings was therefore $462,375,491.53 and $618,833,850.34 for 30- and 90-count pricing, respectively (Fig. 1). For each of the 16 drugs investigated, there were reduced costs when using the 90-count pricing of MCCPDC (Table 1).



Yes, "this clear example of gigantic fraud isn’t on Musk’s radar."


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BOREALIS

02/18/25 9:09 PM

#514169 RE: fuagf #514152

Bannon: Musk ‘wants to impose his freak experiments’ on US

by Dominick Mastrangelo - 02/18/25 10:29 AM ET

'Elon Musk Is Faking It'

Listen to this Article
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150832-steve-bannon-elon-musk-doge/

Former White House chief adviser turned conservative commentator Steve Bannon blasted billionaire Elon Musk over his efforts to reduce the size of the federal government and gain more power in the U.S.


“Musk is a parasitic illegal immigrant,” he said during an interview with the website UnHerd. “He wants to impose his freak experiment and play-act as God without any respect for the country’s history, tradition or values.”

Bannon, a staunch populist who has used his widely followed “War Room” podcast to rail against the “elites” in society, has sharpened his attacks on Musk as the tech billionaire has grown closer to President Trump.

He has told Trump’s supporters Musk is not to be trusted and has argued there is a “fundamental chasm” between the billionaires who have aligned themselves with the president and his “Make America Great Again” movement.

“We will break these guys,” Bannon said during a recent episode of his podcast centered on Musk, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other leading tech moguls.

The Tesla CEO and Trump have argued Democrats and media outlets are trying to drive a wedge between them. The president has repeatedly voiced support for Musk and his efforts as the head of the new Department of Government Efficiency.

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5150832-steve-bannon-elon-musk-doge/
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fuagf

03/04/25 6:46 PM

#516191 RE: fuagf #514152

Elon Musk built his wealth from taxpayer-funded research — now he's trying to destroy future science

"Most interesting, as always, Musk also a fraud - Elon Musk Is Faking It"

The billionaire should be writing a thank you note to Al Gore, not wrecking burgeoning developments

By Amanda Marcotte
Senior Writer
Published February 11, 2025 6:00AM (EST)
Updated February 12, 2025 12:07PM (EST)

IMAGE - Elon Musk and a sign for the National Institute of Health (Photo illustration by Salon/Getty Images)

Donald Trump, his shadow president Elon Musk, and the so-called Department of Government Efficiency are waging a highly illegal rampage through the federal budget. Among the first wave of intended victims are thousands of scientists across the country who depend on federal grants and loans to fuel their research. The administration is trying to unilaterally slash billions of dollars from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the National Science Foundation (NSF). To defend this, Musk claims it's a "ripoff" when grant funding goes to pay for salaries, lab space and equipment, even though no one can conduct scientific research without these baseline necessities.

"Trump and King Musk framed this as a shot at baddies like Harvard and Yale, but this absolutely destroys public schools and every state has those and they all are doing scientific research," historian Erik Loomis explained at Lawyers, Guns and Money .. https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2025/02/leopards-faces-etc-2 . Even Republican senators are having trouble concealing .. https://www.al.com/news/2025/02/katie-britt-vows-to-work-with-rfk-jr-after-nih-funding-cuts-cause-concern-in-alabama.html .. their panic, as public universities are economic centers in many red states.

Musk's ingratitude is breathtaking. It also fits the larger pattern of tech billionaires
spitting venom at the middle-class workers who did the real labor in creating
the products these capitalists profit so handsomely from.


Noting that neither Trump nor Musk has the legal authority to make these cuts, Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn.,

[INSERT: Ok, is clear now -- "[...] US District Judge William Alsup said that “Congress has given the authority to hire and fire to the agencies themselves.”
“The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees,” he added.
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the ranking member of the House Appropriations Committee, said, "They are causing irreparable damage to ongoing research to develop cures and treatments for cancer, Alzheimer’s disease and related dementias, ALS, Diabetes, Mental Health disorders, opioid abuse, genetic diseases, rare diseases, and other diseases and conditions affecting American families." And she's just talking about the NIH money. The larger assault on universities and the NSF will likely undermine research in every field, from biology to astrophysics.

It's no surprise that Trump hates science. He is, after all, the same man who confidently declared he had a cure for COVID-19 that those silly medical researchers had overlooked: injecting household cleaners directly into your lungs. He's no doubt still nursing the narcissistic injury when people laughed at him for being so thuddingly stupid. But, despite his own painfully obvious blindspots, Musk should know better than this. After all, if it weren't for government-funded research, Musk would be an anonymous failson living off his daddy's money, instead of a billionaire competing with Kanye West for the title of the world's most cringeworthy celebrity.

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Despite the media hype painting Musk as a genius and inventor, he largely built his financial empire on other people's research. At every turn, he's relied heavily on technologies developed because of the very federal largess he now deems a "ripoff." He'll never admit it, but Musk owes former Vice President Al Gore a giant thank you. Gore did not claim, as conservatives pretend he did, to "invent" the internet. But Gore was telling the truth when he said, "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." He spent the better part of two decades promoting the internet, backing legislation to fund its development, and organizing research agencies to make it happen. As early pioneers in the internet's development, Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, explained in 2000, "Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development" and "no other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time."

Musk got rich because of all this work. In the 90s, he built a website called Zip2 that functioned as an online Yellow Pages. He sold it to Compaq in 1999, netting $22 million. He made another huge chunk of money as the CEO of PayPal, which would also not exist but for the decades of government-funded development of the internet. Musk deserves credit for developing coding skills at a time when the internet was still new, of course. But he also just got really lucky in being a young man right when decades of taxpayer-funded research into the internet was finally paying off.

That's been the story of Musk's career ever since. Without investment from the Department of Energy into developing batteries and other electric car technology, there would be no Tesla. Car companies were often reluctant to fund that research because it would take decades to pay off. Only the government, which works for the people and not for profits, has a motive to put money into scientific inquiry on that time scale. SpaceX scientists have done impressive work, even if they probably won't get us to Mars, despite Musk's ignorant bleatings. Still, as admirable as the people who work for Musk may be, they wouldn't be able to do any of this without NASA and the federal government's astronomical 20th-century investment in the space race. It is the same story with Starlink, which exists because of satellite technology initially developed by both the American and Soviet governments. At every turn, Musk makes money only because he grabs onto technologies that were invented at taxpayer expense.[

Related: Why the "President Elon Musk" mockery doesn't seem to bother Donald Trump
https://www.salon.com/2025/02/07/why-the-president-elon-musk-mockery-doesnt-seem-to-bother-donald/

And that's just the science side of it. In every way, Musk's fortune has depended on federal largess. Tesla was injected with a generous loan from the Department of Energy at a critical time. Without federal tax credits for electric vehicles, Tesla would likely not have enough customers to survive. Economists also point out that Tesla was kept afloat by regulatory credits made possible by the government. Now, of course, Musk rakes in large amounts of cash as a government contractor, all with businesses he built on a foundation of government-funded research.

Musk's ingratitude is breathtaking. It also fits the larger pattern of tech billionaires spitting venom at the middle-class workers who did the real labor in creating the products these capitalists profit so handsomely from. The psychology at play is not especially mysterious. Knowing that other people actually did the work and you're just taking the credit has got to be unsettling. Musk in particular has a long, documented obsession with pretending to be smarter and more accomplished than he actually is, even in areas as inconsequential as video gaming. (He hires people to play online games for him, and passes off their scores as his own.) Musk isn't a scientist, he just plays one for TV. I have little doubt that he resents real scientists, as poseurs always do when confronted with the real thing. He's probably taking his insecurities out on people whose only crime is being what he only pretends to be. Unfortunately, his petty psychodrama will have real impacts on the whole human race, which may be denied the often life-saving benefits of what real researchers do.

Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly stated that Tesla was
founded by Elon Musk. He joined the company as chairman in 2004.


Read more about this topic

"Hitler actually had some decent points": Musk's covert coup is guided by internet trolls
https://www.salon.com/2025/02/04/hitler-actually-had-some-good-ideas-musks-covert-coup-is-guided-by-internet/

“Sitting ducks”: Trump’s withdrawal from the WHO could put the US at risk for deadly viral outbreaks
https://www.salon.com/2025/02/04/sitting-ducks-trumps-withdrawal-from-the-could-put-the-us-at-risk-for-viral/

By Amanda Marcotte
Amanda Marcotte is a senior politics writer at Salon and the author of "Troll Nation: How The Right Became Trump-Worshipping Monsters Set On Rat-F*cking Liberals, America, and Truth Itself." Follow her on Bluesky @AmandaMarcotte and sign up for her biweekly politics newsletter, Standing Room Only.

https://www.salon.com/2025/02/11/elon-musk-built-his-wealth-from-taxpayer-funded-research--now-hes-trying-to-destroy-future-science/