IB thanks, we older posters know what patiently enduring a long term hold feels like, I did it with elite for years with an s , I criticize elite because i earned it! I'm back in it, still adding, and believe this is not Grandma's sequestox co. Any longer, but yes, there seems to be active entities keeping us down for months on end and they ain't shooters, the question is why? What benefit? Snup