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RickNagra

01/17/25 9:37 AM

#813061 RE: Ace Trader #813018

That is the way Calabria set up the capital rule.  Blame Calabria not Ackman.
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Sogo

01/17/25 10:04 AM

#813069 RE: Ace Trader #813018

Two potential dilutions, right? Sr.Preferred and warrants? Warrants: there are many saying it would be illegal for the government to exercise them. But I haven’t seen the language of the warrants contract.
SrPreferred: Ackman says gvt would not really benefit much from converting these to common, and that they’d be better off canceling these (and agreeing that they have been “paid back”) and then selling their warrant-exercised shares in the open market steadily over 5 years, thus capturing a huge profit.

Yes. many say the senior preferreds will likely be deemed to have been paid off. But again, the language of that contract doesn’t necessarily require that.

Do I have that all correct?

If the warrants are exercised, it dilutes common shares by about 80%.

But What’s the total dilution if both warrants and sr preferred end up being decided against shareholders? Did someone calculate it’d be 90%

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FortunaFavetFortibus

01/17/25 11:36 AM

#813104 RE: Ace Trader #813018

I don't think that's accurate, check page 98 - Fannie Divs in '27, Freddie in '28

why is it going to take another 10 years before dividends kick in 2034

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jog49

01/18/25 1:44 AM

#813316 RE: Ace Trader #813018

"If Fannie and Freddie are fully Capitalised 21/31/2026 and Freddie 12/31/2027 why is it going to take another 10 years before dividends kick in 2034???"

They will both still be in conservatorships in 2034 because the government will have found several other ways to block exits. It will still have its appointed BODs in place and they are not going to give low-life shareholders "no stinking dividends"!











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