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[blackhawks]

No president would not have gotten behind Warp Speed. Trump is on the record saying that he downplayed the pandemic so as not to panic us and he kept his mouth shut about the vaxxes for a full year after leaving office.

He was roundly booed in an interview when he said people should get the Covid vaxxes.

His infamous junk science riff on light and disinfectants did much to harm the fight against Covid.

[zab]

Thankfully 1.3 millions of those trump supporters died, that was the best thing to happen to those trump supporters. Now I am watching western North Carolina fuck themselves over, you think trump gives a shit. I do not mind if trump tears the country apart, it is what trump wants to do.

That is your problem, you wanted trump back in, and here he is, in his first term 1.3 million died, hopefully if will do better this term. Bankrupt America, turn it into a white nationalist nation, please be my guess. It is America, we just love killing ourselves, but I doubt the economy will do well. Gee, you remember the economy, I can afford it, trump supporters cannot.

[fuagf]

hap0206, Yeah, too many voters give Trump credit for things he had little if any real input in. You have been told before:
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"I think about 50% of the voters give him credit for fast-tracking the vaccine and trying to prevent an economic collapse from a pandemic panic --"

Too many like you.

See also:

Firstly, the most widely used, Pfizer, was created without Warp Speed. Except Trump put in an order for a bunch.
Secondly Warp Speed was a public-private effort and without checking i'd guess, being aware of
Trump's lifetime of business failures, it was the success it was despite Trump's contribution.
Obviously Trump deserves some credit, but...
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'stock_observer_77, Obama's contribution to rapid vaccine development highlighted in hearing
[...]At a hearing on Friday of the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, Congressman Bill Foster (D-IL) highlighted the work done and investments made during the Obama administration that are directly responsible for the successes of current vaccines in development. Specifically, Foster pointed to President Obama's decision to invest in mRNA vaccine research, which is one platform being used to develop potential vaccines in record time.

Foster said, "Heeding the advice of his scientific panel, in 2013 the Obama Administration invested $25 million through DARPA for research into the mRNA platform for pandemic response. This was followed by a $125 million investment by BARDA in 2015, so that by the end of the Obama administration, mRNA vaccines and therapeutics were being tested in both animals and humans.

"The reasons the Obama administration prioritized mRNA vaccines and therapeutics were speed of manufacture, and potency. Without those kinds of investments, "Project Warp Speed" and current efforts to produce an effective COVID-19 vaccine as quickly as possible would not be finding success."
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The Trump administration quietly spent billions in hospital funds on Operation Warp Speed
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How the ‘deep state’ scientists vilified by Trump helped him deliver an unprecedented achievement
[...]“I do think the urgency for Operation Warp Speed was heightened by the fact that we were in the middle of an election year,” said Daniel Carpenter, a political scientist at Harvard University. “On the whole, it was a good thing — it led a potentially anti-science, anti-vaccine administration to push harder for a vaccine. What we will end up seeing in the long run is this is an unparalleled private and public sector mobilization that happened.”

That mobilization, which is pushing out the first 2.9 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine this week, is a testament to the power of science, and also to a global collaboration involving drug companies and government coordinated by political appointees and civil servants across the government — players and a process that Trump has at times disparaged.

To many attendees of the White House summit — and even more who stayed away — that event underscored the awkward, often uneasy relationship between Trump and pharmaceutical companies, government regulators and scientists, even as they jointly pursued the goal of ending a pandemic that has killed more than 300,000 Americans and infected more than 16 million.

None of the companies that developed the most promising vaccines were present. Officials said they worried about participating in an event that might reinforce perceptions of political interference and suspicions of a rushed vaccine just as their shots were on the cusp of emergency clearance.
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What will Trump’s legacy be after leaving office?
Jan 19, 2021 6:35 PM ES
PBS NEWS HOUR -- 08:26
TRUMP'S LEGCY
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-will-trumps-legacy-be-after-leaving-office#transcript
As President Trump leaves office, a new PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist poll shows that just 38 percent of Americans approve of his presidency, while 57 percent disapprove of his job performance. Peter Wehner, a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center who served in the last three Republican administrations, joins Judy Woodruff for a bigger look at Trump's four years in the White House.
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