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12/07/24 2:24 PM

#504273 RE: DesertDrifter #504268

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
?@aoc.bsky.social?
I’m excited for @gregcasar.bsky.social’s leadership at the Progressive Caucus. He’s going to be great.

?Susan Rinkunas? ?@susanrinkunas.com?
Newly elected Congressional Progressive Caucus chair Greg Casar is already cooking
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-must-combat-trumps-culture-wars-new-progressive-chair-says-rcna182509

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fuagf

12/07/24 5:00 PM

#504281 RE: DesertDrifter #504268

Yep. The wealth gap has reached it's tipping point so that enough voters are pissed off. That thought is made true by the the election of Trump again. It's the fact now that the crook zillionaires are still the master of the message that too now says the voters are not yet pissed off enough to look at it enough to understand who the most culpable culprit creators of the gap really are. The oligarch disinformation machine is a front and center problem now. Conservative disinformation is still conning the voters now, and Democrats must come up with a successful strategy to overcome the swindle Trump and his oligarchs are pulling on the world.

"The gap between the rich and the struggling might have found a chasm that sticks. Insurance parasites that make millions annually, contribute nothing to actual health care, while denying enough claims to make sure they get their annual stock options have been put on notice, and are now hiding like scared quail after one got taken out.

I hope it becomes a back door to pushing for things like medicare for all. The more the oligarchs fight it the more people are getting pissed. and not even purely political. Adding a few hundred per month on the premiums to support more millionaire leeches just got a pimple popped, they better adjust or might end up on the wrong side of a developing mob.
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Health Care for All: A Framework for Moving to a Primary Care-Based Health Care System in the United States
https://www.aafp.org/about/policies/all/health-care-for-all.html

It's been awhile now since Hanauer first mentioned the pitchforks you alluded
to, and he and some other zillionaires are doing their bit. See again:

hap0206, Fact is Dems are better for the economy than Republicans are. You have been given that factual history many times, and it's message is loud and clear that whatever the extra burdens the present two wars your two Trump buddies Netanyahu and Putin are imposing on the world Democrats will do better with the economy that Trump's fascist-like Republicans would. And, the U.S., in spite of Trump's isolationist efforts is still part of the greater world.
[...]
The Transformation at the Heart of Biden’s Middle-Out Economic Agenda
The economy is not about money; it’s about people.
by Nick Hanauer February 9, 2023
[...]
.. with much more .. Beware, fellow plutocrats, the pitchforks are coming | Nick Hanauer
"It’s Time to Stop Living the American Scam"
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Republicans have excelled at consistently advancing an overall narrative about how the economy grows and how jobs are created. And they have been rewarded by the public, who score the party as better stewards of the economy. The public believes Republicans are better at running the economy even though their trickle-down claims that tax cuts for the rich create growth, that raising wages kills jobs, and that any form of regulation on large corporations destroys productivity have been repeatedly disproven. In fact, the historical record shows that the Republican policy agenda did nothing but enrich their big donors and increase budget deficits.

By contrast, Democrats have promoted a wide range of popular policies but provided no clear and consistent counternarrative of how those policies grow the economy and create prosperity. Too often, Democrats have even echoed the Republican trickle-down narrative or merely talked about fairness, which sends the message that there is a trade-off between growth and fairness. No wonder most people think Democrats don’t understand the economy.

Human beings use economic narrative to understand how the world works. It shapes how they see economic cause and effect.

The middle-out story that President Biden is telling is not just a narrative; it’s also grounded in empirical economic evidence gathered over decades. Biden and his advisers understand that the economic policies of the past 40 years were animated by a fundamental misunderstanding of how economic growth and widespread prosperity is created. Massive corporate concentration, reductions in worker power and wages, and lower taxes for the rich do not create economic growth and a thriving middle class. Instead, we have seen the real result: entrenching wealth and power among the few and creating historic levels of wealth and income inequality.

Trickle-down economics has its cause and effect backwards. The essence of the middle-out approach to policy is recognizing that the economy isn’t money—it’s people. And the better that everyday American families do, the more the middle class thrives, the stronger the economy.

This new approach
is based on, as President Biden’s Council of Economic Advisers wrote in a 2021 issue brief .. https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2021/05/11/building-back-better-the-american-jobs-plan-and-the-american-families-plan/ , a growing body of “empirical evidence that a strong economy depends on a solid foundation of public investment, and that investments in workers, families, and communities can pay off for decades to come.”

Eric Beinhocker, executive director of the Institute for New Economic Thinking at the University of Oxford, further explains: “It is the broad middle of the population that does the bulk of the working, innovating, and spending in the economy. Shared growth doesn’t come from giving tax cuts to rich people or deregulating the powerful, it comes from investing in, supporting, and building a large, inclusive middle class.

Economic inclusion—the full economic participation of as many people in the economy as possible—drives a virtuous circle between increasing innovation and demand for new and better products and services, as well as creating better, higher-paying jobs. When the economy grows in that way, the lives of most people get better, not just those at the top. Economic justice and economic growth always go hand in hand.

THREE CORE IMPERATIVES ARE ESSENTIAL to building the economy from the bottom up and the middle out: (1) raising incomes and lowering costs to enable all Americans to participate robustly in the economy; (2) increasing both human and material capabilities to ensure that people have both the individual capability and the material infrastructure to robustly participate in the economy; and (3) managing markets to maximize competition and innovation, encouraging economic activity that is aimed at solving the key problems society faces while discouraging cheating, exploitation, and parasitism.

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hap0206, You'd be better off sitting with your wife, sipping a martini, looking at a view
and feeling special than you are cheering on you misguided policies and people here.

Correction: Just noticed that last sentence should be

...than you are cheering on your misguided policies and people here.

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Trump and his people will continue to abuse the people, the justice system and democracy as much as they can.

They and their disinformation machine must be confronted in a more persuasive manner.
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fuagf

12/07/24 5:40 PM

#504286 RE: DesertDrifter #504268

New Brunswick N.B. election: What happened and what's next

"The gap between the rich and the struggling might have found a chasm that sticks. Insurance parasites that make millions annually, contribute nothing to actual health care, while denying enough claims to make sure they get their annual stock options have been put on notice, and are now hiding like scared quail after one got taken out.
P - I hope it becomes a back door to pushing for things like medicare for all. The more the oligarchs fight it the more people are getting pissed. and not even purely political. Adding a few hundred per month on the premiums to support more millionaire leeches just got a pimple popped, they better adjust or might end up on the wrong side of a developing mob.
"

Apology for the too many early mistakes in my other reply, impatience led to sloppy proofreading.

Related: Comparing the U.S. and Canadian Health Care Systems
10/18/2011
Summary of working paper 13429
Featured in print Bulletin on Aging & Health
In discussions of health care reform, the Canadian system is often held up as a possible model for the U.S. The two countries' health care systems are very different-Canada has a single-payer, mostly publicly-funded system, while the U.S. has a multi-payer, heavily private system-but the countries appear to be culturally similar, suggesting that it might be possible for the U.S. to adopt the Canadian system.
P - Much of the appeal of the Canadian system is that it seems to do more for less. Canada provides universal access to health care for its citizens, while nearly one in five non-elderly Americans is uninsured. Canada spends far less of its GDP on health care (10.4 percent, ver-sus 16 percent in the U.S.) yet performs better than the U.S. on two commonly cited health outcome measures, the infant mortality rate and life expectancy
https://www.nber.org/bah/fall07/comparing-us-and-canadian-health-care-systems

Apparently the election was largely fought on healthcare, while in the US conservatives
were able to put falsely contrived cultural issues front and center. That even though conservative policy actually denies minority groups freedom and rights which the majority enjoy, in spite of fact they disingenuously pose as the party of individual freedoms.


Political pundits break down Monday night's biggest surprises

CBC News · Posted: Oct 22, 2024 1:19 PM EDT | Last Updated: October 23


Premier-elect Susan Holt gives media interviews after historic win Monday night. (Patrick Morrell/CBC)

It's been less than 24 hours since New Brunswickers delivered a decisive win to Susan Holt's Liberals and a devastating loss to Blaine Higgs's Progressive Conservatives.

But a day is a long time in politics, and political pundits are already examining what happened during the campaign and and what may be to come.

One thing that is clear is that the Liberals managed to keep Holt in the spotlight and the party branding to the sidelines.

"I don't think this is a sign that the Liberals' luck at the federal level is turning," said Erin Crandall, an Acadia University political scientist.

"I think what we saw was a party that was effective in disassociating their Liberal Party from the federal Liberal brand, right, and so part of that was emphasizing Team Holt."


In campaign signs and platform literature, the Liberals focused more on their leader than the party. (Liberal Party of New Brunswick)

J.P. Lewis, a political scientist at UNB Saint John, said the Liberals were shrewd in making that break and their concern about potential drag from the Trudeau brand was not overplayed.

"I think they did a good job of running away from it," said Lewis.

"They figured out a way to make this about Blaine Higgs and about Susan Holt … and they kept the Liberal brand out of it."

PCs fail to keep up

While the Liberals had an extensive platform and offered several major promises, the PCs took the opposite approach with a two- page platform that largely spoke to their record.

St. Thomas University political scientist Jamie Gillies believes that was a mistake in this campaign.


"I think the the challenge here was that you do have to promise voters something. You have to campaign for the future, and they were campaigning on the past and that did not work," Gillies said.


PC Leader Blaine Higgs focused on his record and a handful of commitments, such as a cut to the HST. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Political columnist and former journalist Duncan Matheson said he agreed with the PC strategy of trying to tie Holt to Trudeau, but in the end even that didn't work.

He thinks it was a case of Holt a running a good campaign, while Higgs did not.

"It was a weak campaign in my estimation," said Matheson.

Mixed bag for Greens

While the Green Party more or less maintained its vote, it lost a third of its caucus.

Gillies said the party should see this as a win because this turned out to be a change election, not something that is beneficial to third parties.

"Third parties often do poorly because the wave favours one of the two major parties.


It was a mixed night for the Greens who managed to maintain their position in votes, but lost a third of their caucus. (Kate Letterick/CBC)

Crandall said that while the Greens did lose one seat, the two races they won have solidified the party's standing, and it can now be seen as a natural third party of New Brunswick.

"The Green Party now kind of occupies the political left in New Brunswick," said Crandall.

"This election confirms that the Green Party is here to stay."

Next steps for the Liberals

For the Liberals, it's just the start of what is expected to be a four-year government.

There are election promises to keep and an expanded roster of MLAs, who may all think they deserve to get a cabinet post.

Matheson said the Liberals have a lot on their plate.

"Fixing health care is going to be massive. She promised a lot on that. Look at the financial problems N.B. Power .. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-power-proposed-rate-increase-faces-opposition-1.7305481 .. is facing. You know, billions of dollars. She's got her work cut out for her," said Matheson.

Crandall expects the change in government will mean a change in the rhetoric coming out of the legislature, to "probably ... create a friendlier politics."

"I think we're going to see a change in the way leaders in New Brunswick … talk about politics, talk about the way we should be doing politics," said Crandall.

Next steps PCs

For the Progressive Conservatives, the loss means a number of things, including a potential new leader and taking a hard look at why the election played out the way it did.

That won't be easy, said Lewis, considering some of the losses the PCs faced Monday night.

"This is like that team that has gotten rid of all the big contracts and completely rebuilt," he said.


Progressive Conservatives now have to face the search for a new leader and what direction their party will take. (The Canadian Press)

The PCs "lost the front bench," including cabinet ministers Greg Turner, Ernie Steeves, Ted Flemming, and Blaine Higgs himself.

"It'll be really interesting to see who comes out to put their name forward for leadership," said Lewis.

Gillies expects there will be a "fight for the soul of the party."

The "PC brand in the four eastern-most provinces is still very strong," he said.

"This social conservative and, sort of, phoned-in Christian nationalist message that they ran over the last year did not work.

"It didn't work for voters. It didn't work for the public. And Blaine Higgs paid a price last night."

With files from Information Morning Fredericton and Saint John

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/political-watchers-election-recap-1.7359439

Just caught an interview with Susan Holt. There are Canadian lessons here to for Democrats.