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Zorax

12/06/24 1:38 PM

#504153 RE: brooklyn13 #504139

Perhaps, you being nazi can tell us what the nazi's are up to?
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fuagf

12/06/24 7:25 PM

#504205 RE: brooklyn13 #504139

brooklyn13, LOLOL Count on you to post on that incident, can't
imagine why. Terrible it should happen, but no surprise. See:

Yep, the late Shimon Peres, though he was big on settlements, was wise when it came to Israel's future
either a democracy or a Jewish state. Ehud Barak a realist about that too. And yes, Gideon Levy

Gideon Levy: Getting Rid of Netanyahu Is Not Enough

[...]

Hanno Hauenstein
You’re saying, if I understand you correctly, that not annexing it de jure provides a diplomatic cover of sorts?

Gideon Levy
Sure. Because then there is still the two-state solution and all of those other talking points that are totally irrelevant today, in my view. They come too late. But once Israel declares one-state, the masquerade is over. Then nobody in the world will be able to claim that Israel is a democracy. There is no such thing as a democracy when half of your population lives under tyranny. But a de jure [annexation] will make it undeniable and official.

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"Today we have a vision: one democratic state with equal rights,
civil and national, for everyone between the river and the sea."
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Hanno Hauenstein
When you say the two-state solution is dead — what would be the alternative?

Gideon Levy
Right now, we are in a quite hopeless moment. But if we zoom out of the current situation, we have de facto been living in one state for over fifty years now. Between the river and the sea, there is only one state. I don’t know any other. The only question that matters is its regime. You cannot be both a democratic state and a Jewish state. Israel clearly chose one aspect over the other by paying lip service to democracy while being well aware that someone who lives in Jenin or in Ramallah has no rights. So it’s simple: Israel is not a democracy.

Today we have a vision: one democratic state with equal rights, civil and national, for everyone between the river and the sea.

Hanno Hauenstein
What would have to happen for this vision to become reality?

Gideon Levy
It must start with international pressure to put an end to apartheid. The world did not agree to have apartheid in South Africa, and so the world has to act in the same way against the second apartheid state — Israel. This structure must be broken. It is against international law and against basic values. But change must also come from within, from both peoples, Palestinians and Israelis. They need to realize, gradually, that the only way to live together is in equality. Right now it seems far-fetched. But [the choice is] either to live in an apartheid state forever or to live in a democracy. There is no third option.

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Marwan Bishara, in his - This Israel has no future in the Middle East
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Israel has no good options after its bad war ends. This may be its last chance to pull away from the brink, stop the war, embrace US President Joe Biden’s vision of a two-state solution, impractical as it is today, and accept America’s red lines for Gaza: no to reoccupation, no to ethnic cleansing and no to shrinking its territories. But Netanyahu, along with his fanatic coalition, who’ve long taken America for granted, have once again ignored – read rejected – America’s advice to the detriment of both sides.

Long before the war on Gaza, a leading Israeli journalist, Ari Shavit, predicted the demise of Israel “as we know it”, if it continued on the same destructive path. And last week, Ami Ayalon, a former head of Israel’s Shin Bet secret service, warned .. https://www.arabnews.pk/node/1575796/middle-east .. that the government’s war and territorial expansion will lead to “the end of Israel” as we know it. Both have written books warning Israel about the dark future ahead if it continues its occupation.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174949715

Anyone defending Israel's behavior is no friend of Israel.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175491521

One thing is clear, you are no friend of Israel. And be sure that

'Well, this is a complete shock, said no one ever:
"Melbourne synagogue suffers ‘extensive damage’ in suspected arson" - WaPo, 12.06
This is what happens when a subset of dumb-asses insist on calling Israelis, "the Jews". Because then, even dumber-asses come to believe that bad stuff being done by Israel is being done by "the Jews". And then, surprising no one, this stuff.
I wonder if this board's moderator can tell us what "the blacks" are up to, are "the blacks" killing everyone in Ethiopia?
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the next time you refer to an article like you did there and do not include an appropriate link, IF i see it it will be deleted.