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[brooklyn13]

One article by one guy is classic bias confirmation. You want to believe something so you find something online to support that argument.

How about this then, it’s online, too

https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/

I mean, it’s on the internets so it must be correct, no different than what you posted, personal opinions untethered to context

[zab]

Yes, you have your opinions, just like all of us have ours. The election taught us once again that 1/2 of the country voted for Kamala Harris,  and the other 1/2 voted for trump. That is not going to change. My daughter grew up and made friends with a Palestinian family,  I grew up with Jewish friends. The difference,  I can see the hardships of both, you just see what you see. America just elected a maniac,  trump,  and just like Netanyahu,  they are both terrible leaders. 

[fuagf]

brooklyn13, i do, how about you. In mine there are reasons why some other countries have condemned Al Jazeera. Your

"Do you read posts before you respond to them? I've posted - twice - the list of countries in the Middle East that have barred Al Jazeera because they believe it to foment violence. That's why it's not credible, because it's polemical, skewed to fantasy."

suggests you at least weren't able to read mine with an open mind. LOL Putin and other authoritarian leaders ban publications for similar reasons to those given by the authoritarian governments who have banned Al Jazeera. Trump blocks people on social media. Posters here block other posters. Those positions in no real way are proof the ones banned are not credible.

Also re credibility, you still haven't said why you don't condemn Haaretz as you condemn Al Jazeera (the English version which i only use as i use Haaretz) even though both outfits' criticism of the war has been strikingly similar.

"It's been shown, repeatedly, that the same events are reported differently in the Arabic version of Al Jazeera than in the English version."

That wouldn't be surprising, and If true the importance of it would depend on the degree of difference. It would be only important if basic facts were treated differently. You should have included a link at least in support of that of yours. Since you didn't here is a conversation which am guessing covers it. Looks generally fair and objective with different opinions , of course.

Is there any documentation/studies of the differences between the Arabic and English channels of Al Jazeera?

I often hear there are differences between them, but when I ask for sources I'm met with "just something I heard". So anyone got anything?

•12 yr. ago
District_10
Is there any documentation/studies of the differences between the Arabic and English channels of Al Jazeera?

I often hear there are differences between them, but when I ask for sources I'm met with "just something I heard". So anyone got anything?
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inf0rmnthalistnrs
•12y ago
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The initial differences you'd notice is the way the news is presented.

AJ Arabic obviously caters to Arabic watchers. The effects, graphics, and all that is a little more dated.

AJ English looks a lot more professional and simple. It looks to be catered to a young urban demographic.

Content wise, they are very different as well.

AJ Arabic would be akin to Fox News of the middle east, the difference being that nearly everybody in the arab world watches AJ Arabic.

AJ Arabic is a lot more hectic, and they have a reputation for heated debates, with debates sometimes getting into physical altercations. They don't present as many rational view points as it's english counterpart does.

example:

AJ Arabic is a lot more graphic than any mainstream news you'd find in the United States. They show very graphic material with almost no warning. This includes beheadings, charred bodies, mutilated people, and the like.

AJ English really isn't too far off from Arabic on certain topics. They just know how to cater to western viewers.

I have seen the typical Arab, notably Qatari, influence in the English counterpart that the average western viewer wouldn't think of.

The Bahraini uprising wasn't given the coverage it deserved, and still doesn't on the English. The Saudi military intervention and involvement was never talked about. When Syria was still in it's demonstration stage, it was constantly being covered. AJ English never, from my reading, discusses Qatari, or other Gulf State involvement in the Arab Spring, American-Iran affair, Israel. When they do, it's an involvement that would be seen beneficial for their PR.

One more example that I had seen too many times on AJ English is it's reporting on insurgent activity in Iraq. I would read an article about a suicide bombing in Baghdad, it would give the stats, location, and the group (Important to note that the group would be Sunni group). Okay, seems fine. I'll read about a car bombing in a Baquba, it would give the same information, the difference being that they'd include that the group is a Shi'ite one. They have gotten better about sectarian bias, albeit very slowly.

If you're more interested in Al Jazeera Arabic, there is a pretty good english documentary on them and it goes into detail about the covering of the Iraq War.

Control Room http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_Room_(film)

source: My parents used to watch Al Jazeera arabic and I occasionally read/watch Al Jazeera English.

edit: spelling and grammer and added some stuff.

[deleted]
•12y ago
•So in your opinion, where does AJ rate on the (subjective) bias scale? Are they good on hard facts but terrible on anything controversial? Do they spin everything towards an agenda?

inf0rmnthalistnrs
•12y ago
•Al Jazeera English is pretty solid on facts, and they really are a great source of news. It's refreshing to watch after having watched CNN or Fox. It really just comes down to their financiers and being a corporation based out of Qatar, they can't bite the hand that feeds.

I don't recall Al Jazeera Arabic's reporting in detail so I can't give an estimate. They do know how to rile up a crowd, and that should say something. Again, they are just catering to the market, and can't bite the hand that feeds.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ask_Politics/comments/1bjj46/is_there_any_documentationstudies_of_the/[deleted]

"You know, I really don't care. You're going to believe whatever you want, other opinions be damned. You post an article by one guy and think that's a representative sample size?"

Well, lol, if you don't really care why did you come here with your rather specious contributions in the first place.

As i do spend considerable time on you, your leaving now would not be a sacrifice for me.