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Zorax

11/19/24 12:42 AM

#502346 RE: fuagf #502316

Every conceivable way the law states that he should be sentenced, even imprisoned. To me the defense claim about impeding - 'the president' those fuckers have called him president since the day he was booted as president,,, may be convoluted by the defense, on purpose of course whereas he isn't president yet and everything he is doing since the day after election has been accelerated and possibly not following the norm.

He should sentence him to 4 years at least and let them take it to the scrotum court. Then the fuckshit will at least be officially sentenced to something.
Obviously for some reason all the laws our constitution has to stop this very dictatorship from happening have been ignored by everyone.

The unreality of all this going down in broad daylight is devastating. Merchan won't do it. He actually can be a hero for the history books if he sentences shitface.
Then at least he can walk away knowing he had the balls and fortitude to actually show that he wants democracy to live. To throw it all away is to stand with the nazi's.
I don't know merchan's real ideology, but he needs to do his job and not think politically at all. But sadly, the odds are a million to one he'll do anything against the dictator.

I expect just another disappointment as usual.

Not a word about recounts whatsoever. You can beat your rucksack that if shitface lost, there would have been 20 lawsuits already active.
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fuagf

12/10/24 6:45 PM

#504510 RE: fuagf #502316

Manhattan DA suggests non-prison sentence for Trump in hush money case

"Just follow the law, Judge Merchan - What happens to Donald Trump's felony conviction? 5 ways it could go
[... to end ...]Proceed to sentencing
Merchan could also opt for none of the above and move to sentencing — or at least try, barring an appeal by Trump's lawyers.
George Mason University law professor Ilya Somin said whether the case reaches sentencing “could go either way.”
If it does, he said, “it probably won’t be a prison sentence.”
Trump's charges carry a range of punishments from a fine or probation to up to four years in prison.
“Any prison sentence would likely be blocked or suspended in some way," but a lesser sentence “probably wouldn’t impede Trump to any meaningful degree," Somin said.
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The case should not be dismissed outright, the DA argued in a court filing.

By Aaron Katersky and Peter Charalambous
December 11, 2024, 8:13 AM

VIDEO - 0:26 - Judge adjourns sentencing Trump in NY hush money case
President-elect Donald Trump will not be sentenced as scheduled next Tuesday in his
New York hush money case as Judge Juan Merchan formally adjourned sentencing.

Donald Trump could receive a non-incarceratory sentence -- or his sentencing could be delayed until he leaves office -- in lieu of his criminal hush money conviction being dismissed entirely, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg argued in a court filing unsealed Tuesday.

The district attorney urged New York Judge Juan Merchan to reject Trump's request to throw out the jury's verdict and dismiss the case on the grounds of presidential immunity, arguing the request goes "well beyond what is necessary to protect the presidency."

"The People acknowledge the importance of an orderly executive transition and the peaceful transfer of power, but those interests do not require the extraordinary step of abating post-trial motion practice in a pre-existing criminal case," the filing said.

MORE: Citing Hunter Biden pardon, Trump asks judge to dismiss his criminal hush money case
https://abcnews.go.com/US/citing-hunter-biden-pardon-trump-asks-judge-dismiss/story?id=116416307

The filing mentioned the possibility of Trump receiving an unconditional discharge -- i.e., being released at sentencing with no conditions -- to push back on Trump's arguments about presidential immunity, many of which presuppose he would receive an incarcerated sentence.

Bragg noted that Judge Merchan "is not required to impose a sentence of incarceration at all" because Trump has no prior criminal history and was only convicted of Class E felonies.

"The Court could therefore conclude that presidential immunity, while not requiring dismissal, nonetheless would require a non-incarceratory sentence in these circumstances," the filing said. "Such a constitutional limitation on the range of available sentences would further diminish any impact on defendant's presidential decisionmaking without going so far as to discard the indictment and jury verdict altogether."

Trump was found guilty in May on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to a hush money payment made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in order to boost his electoral prospects in the 2016 presidential election.

His sentencing has been delayed three times and he is now pushing to have the case dismissed entirely as he prepares to return to the White House following his reelection in November.

Trump's lawyers had argued that the case should be tossed because Trump, as president-elect, is immune from prosecution during the transition phase -- a claim Bragg rejected in his filing.

"There are no grounds for such relief now, prior to defendant's inauguration, because President-elect immunity does not exist," Bragg's filing said. "And even after the inauguration, defendant's temporary immunity as the sitting President will still not justify the extreme remedy of discarding the jury's unanimous guilty verdict and wiping out the already-completed phases of this criminal proceeding."

Prosecutors suggested either delaying sentencing until Trump leaves office, or terminating the proceedings "with a notation that the jury verdict has not been vacated and the indictment has not been dismissed."

The filing also criticized Trump's lawyers for rehashing arguments that the court has already rejected and over-interpreting the prohibition on cases against a sitting president, arguing that Trump's "sweeping argument disregard the careful limits that the Supreme Court and the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) have placed on presidential immunity."

MORE: Timeline: Manhattan DA's Stormy Daniels hush money case against Donald Trump
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-manhattan-district-attorney-case-donald-trump/story?id=98389444

"Defendant's requested relief would go well beyond what is necessary to protect the presidency and would subvert the compelling public interest in preserving the jury's unanimous verdict and upholding the rule of law," the filing said.

Trump's federal election interference case was thrown out last month .. https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-jack-smith-moves-dismiss-election-interference/story?id=116207758 .. due to the Justice Department's standing policy prohibiting the prosecution of a sitting president, and a federal appeals court dropped Trump from the government's ongoing appeal of special counsel Jack Smith's classified documents case based on the same policy.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-hush-money-conviction-stand-manhattan-da-argues/story?id=116614131