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Trump is demanding an important change to the Senate confirmation process

"Trump's Proposed Border Czar, Tom Homan, Is A Little Too Psyched About Mass Deportation
He was the architect of the first Trump administration's infamous family-separation and
"zero-tolerance" immigration policies and that appears to have just been the start."

Mass deportation would mean labor shortages, inflation...perhaps stagflation

The change would be a major blow to the system of checks and balances.

by Ellen Ioanes
Nov 12, 2024, 10:40 AM GMT+11

Ellen Ioanes covers breaking and general assignment news as the weekend reporter at Vox.
She previously worked at Business Insider covering the military and global conflicts.

President-elect Donald Trump is pushing for the next Senate majority leader to allow recess appointments, which would allow him to install some officials without Senate confirmation.

Typically, the Senate must approve presidential nominations for high-level posts, including cabinet positions, ambassadorships, and inspector general jobs, in a process outlined in the US Constitution. This procedure is meant to be a check on presidential power — a way of ensuring officials directly elected by citizens can guard against the appointment of unqualified or corrupt personnel.

The Constitution, however, also allows for “recess appointments,” a provision that aims to prevent prolonged government vacancies by allowing the president to install officials without Senate approval while Congress is not in session.

Using such recess appointments, Trump would be able to appoint whoever he’d like without giving the Senate the opportunity to question or object to the pick. Critics of the practice note that it increases the risk of unqualified, corrupt, or ideological appointees filling government posts. It also significantly expands presidential power.

Though recess appointments have been used in the past by presidents of both parties, in recent years, the Senate has avoided going to extended recesses, blocking presidents from making any appointments in senators’ absence.

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Reinstating recess appointments “would essentially negate one of the Senate’s main roles in governance, which is to vet presidential nominations for high-level positions,” Peverill Squire, a political science professor at the University of Missouri, told Vox. “It would, if the Republicans in the Senate were willing to go along with it, represent sort of an abdication; they would be simply giving up the power that’s afforded them.”

Trump injected his demand into the fierce race to replace Sen. Mitch McConnell as the leader of the Senate, which will be under GOP control next session thanks to the results of last week’s election. Trump largely stayed out of that contest while on the campaign trail, but he waded into it on Sunday, writing on X, “Any Republican Senator seeking the coveted LEADERSHIP position in the United States Senate must agree to Recess Appointments (in the Senate!)”

The three candidates for the position — Sens. John Thune (South Dakota), John Cornyn (Texas), and Rick Scott (Florida) — quickly expressed support for Trump’s demand. Scott, the underdog in the race who is also the closest Trump ally of the three, was the most explicit in his endorsement of the plan, writing “100% agree. I will do whatever it takes to get your nominations through as quickly as possible,” on X.

[ Insert: One blink of hope that Trump will not get all of his own way:
Republicans pick Thune over Trump loyalist as Senate majority leader
Senator John Thune of South Dakota beat Trump’s loyalist Rick Scott to lead the Republican-controlled Senate.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/13/republicans-pick-thune-over-trump-loyalist-as-senate-majority-leader ]
(AJ!!! come in brooklyn13 )

What’s a recess appointment and how does it work?

In ordinary circumstances, nominees to many government posts including cabinet secretaries, ambassadors, and federal judges must undergo a confirmation hearing, during which they are questioned by the Senate about their record, qualifications, and how they will perform their government duties. Confirmation in this process requires a simple majority voting to confirm.

Recess appointments work differently, and they don’t require a vote. The president simply appoints an official of their choice. The idea behind them was that there might arise times when the president needed to appoint someone to keep the government functioning, while Congress was out of session (in recess).

“At the time the Constitution was written, Congress met mainly nine out of 24 months, and there were long stretches where Congress wasn’t in session,” Squire told Vox. As such, the Constitution states the president has the “Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.”

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Congressional recesses aren’t as long as they once were. Now, recesses happen in between each congressional session and around holidays. Recess appointments still work the same way, however. And as the text notes, any appointment made during a recess isn’t permanent: Presidential appointments made during a recess last to the end of that second session, meaning for a period of no more than two years. A president can renominate their pick after that, or reappoint them during another recess.

How have they been used in the past?

With the exception of Trump and President Joe Biden, recent presidents have made use of recess appointments; according to the Congressional Research Service .. https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R42329.pdf , former President Barack Obama made 32 recess appointments, Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments, and George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments.

Though recess appointments were meant to be used in emergencies or in times when Congress met less often, over the past few decades, they’ve become seen as a way for presidents to get around congressional opposition. The process faced major scrutiny during the Obama administration, and was curtailed after a 2014 Supreme Court ruling that Obama had overstepped his power .. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/jun/26/supreme-court-rules-against-obama-recess-appointments .. in utilizing recess nominations. (That’s why neither Trump nor Biden made any recess appointments.)

[Well, surely it's arguable that the GOP overstepped it's power in deciding to oppose every bit of Obama legislation.
And in stacking the Supreme Court as they did. How else was Obama to get around the GOP abusing their power?]

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In an effort to block recess appointments, the chamber often employs what are known as “pro forma” sessions. These short meetings, in which no real business is conducted, mean the Senate is never in recess for more than 10 days — preventing the president from making any appointments without the body’s consent. A pro forma session can be as simple as one senator gavelling in, and then calling the session over.

If recess appointments are reinstated, there is little Democrats could do to stop the process, Squire said. But they could slow down legislative processes, which “wouldn’t necessarily prevent [recess appointments] from happening, but there would be a penalty — a cost attached to it.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/13/republicans-pick-thune-over-trump-loyalist-as-senate-majority-leader

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Elon Musk agrees Trump policies would crash economy.

"Trump's Proposed Border Czar, Tom Homan, Is A Little Too Psyched About Mass Deportation"

Elon Musk Makes Shocking Confession on His Plans After Trump Victory

This is a wild statement from the world’s richest man and someone reportedly in the running to join Donald Trump’s administration.


Elon Musk at Donald Trump’s hate-filled Madison Square Garden rally in New York City, October 27 ANGELA WEISS/AFP/Getty Images

Elon Musk admitted that he knows that Donald Trump’s policies would crash the economy if he’s elected president, but thinks that the price is worth it.

The tech CEO and social media mogul on Monday evening replied to a post on X from right-wing influencer FischerKing64, who posted about how Trump’s plans for mass deportations of immigrants combined with Musk’s plans as a White House adviser to cut federal spending would initially crash the economy, before creating a “sounder footing.”

Musk replied, “Sounds about right.”

Elon Musk admits that he and Trump will crash the economy, but it’s okay, because they’ll build a better world from the rubble. Not exaggerating, he just said it. pic.twitter.com/yubE8MqkHP

— Will Stancil (@whstancil) October 29, 2024

It’s a telling admission from Musk that crashing the economy is all a part of the plan. Experts have repeatedly warned that Trump’s mass deportations on their own would cause damage to critical industries .. https://newrepublic.com/article/187279/mass-deportation-trump-economy-business .. in the U.S., including agriculture, construction, and hospitality.

Undocumented immigrants most commonly take jobs with longer hours, lower wages, and dangerous working conditions that native-born citizens don’t want, such as housekeeping cleaners, cooks, construction workers, and farm workers. These jobs also won’t have American workers lining up to fill them.

Trump’s plan to appoint Musk to his administration, possibly to lead a government efficiency task force, could also have negative effects. JD Vance, Trump’s running mate, previously said Musk told him that he plans to look at cuts .. https://newrepublic.com/post/186059/jd-vance-reveals-trump-will-use-musk-target-social-security .. to government programs like Social Security and the Department of Defense.

Judging by what happened after Musk gutted Twitter and laid off many of its workers after he purchased the social media company, there are justifiable fears that he would cripple essential government programs. Social Security, for example, is a lifeline to many older Americans, and in fact needs more funding, not less.

Musk’s status as the world’s richest man, as well as the success of his companies like SpaceX and Tesla, comes from taxpayer funds .. https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/investing/elon-musk-wealth-taxpayer-support/index.html . When the government isn’t involved in his ventures, they’ve suffered, such as Twitter (now X), which has lost more than a third of its value since he took over the company. Musk’s confession that the economy would initially get worse under Trump is worrying enough, but his idea that it would lead to a rapid recovery should be cause to reject his plans altogether—as well as the administration that would enable them.

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The only country lie: Donald Trump thinks he can end birthright citizenship. History suggests otherwise

MSNBC

72,373 views Dec 16, 2024 #trump #constitution #citizenship
Donald Trump has said he intends on ending birthright citizenship, which would require overturning the 14th Amendment. But even by attempting to overturn it– which would trigger scores of lawsuits – the question could appear in front of the Supreme Court, where a Trump-friendly majority could rule in his favor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7LGUZhfVsI

There are two absolute certainties to be seen in Trump's 2nd term. One, he will lie about anything
and everything when it suits him, again. And two, his faithful followers will believe his lies, again.

Fact check: Trump, repeating old lies on ‘Meet the Press,’ falsely claims US is the only country with birthright citizenship
By Daniel Dale, CNN
Updated 4:00 PM EST, Sun December 8, 2024
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/08/politics/fact-check-trump-meet-the-press/index.html