dbergh, You know Vance said nasty, nasty, nasty things about Trump before his ambition overrode his lack luster principles. I guessed (you got me there) Trump's big lie would have been one of the reasons Vance had it right then. Logically it would have to be. Either tonight or tomorrow i'll see if i can find exactly why Vance held the correct opinion on Trump - that he is a prick.