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newmedman

09/17/24 12:44 PM

#493653 RE: rooster #493649

You know, it's really comical that you folks have run around for the last 8 years, cheering on a half wit schoolyard bully that has done nothing but threaten everyone in society that doesn't kiss his ass with violence, jail time or both. You told us to "fuck our feelings" because that was just who the guy is, a big, bold, tough man and he's just saying what you all feel. You laughed when he told people to beat the shit out of protesters at his rallies, when he mocked people with disabilities, made a mockery of gold star families and told us we just need to "get over it" after school shootings.

You cheered when he had the military fire tear gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters so he could go to a church and take a picture with an upside down bible. It made you all warm and fuzzy inside when he suggested that our military execute asylum seekers as they crossed the border, shoplifters as they exited stores and shoot peaceful protesters in the legs when they gathered. You called our military generals "woke pussies" when they refused to bow to that psychopath's every murderous whim.

I'm not even going to get into how he's running his current campaign but I'm sure you get the hint by now.

After all of that, all thee fear-mongering, scapegoating, outright threats of violence and retribution against his political opponents you have the balls to come here now and say that it's rhetoric from the opposition party that caused all this? Are you fuckin kidding me?

Go blow it out of your ass you little snowflake. You had your chance to disavow this type of politics years ago but it was you who stood and laughed as it reached its crescendo. You're a product of your own making, completely ignoring the old adage that "what comes around goes around" and now you want the opposition to "tone it down"? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

He is a threat to our democracy, he does compare to Hitler and any other authoritarian leader out there on every level and those are facts, so it's really hard to "tone them down". There's only one side that has called for flat out political violence and told us that our country needs to be taken back (from an invisible enemy) by force. That's all you, every last bit of it. Maybe he can drop the "dog and cat" bit so his people stop threatening to blow up schools and hospitals?

You made your own bed, now you have to lay in it while curled up in a fetal position with bucket to gather your tears. You're all a fan of bluster and bravado until the tables turn.

The shooter in PA and the wannabe shooter in FL weren't "left wing" or "right wing". They were both mentally disturbed individuals who had no business being around a pea shooter let alone an assault rifle. Someone should have thought long and hard before they decided to do away with any firearm regulations there were and go on to incite their followers to violence for the last 8 years. Suck it up buttercup. Your crocodile tears mean shit to me.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/28/517799119/trump-repeals-rule-designed-to-block-gun-sales-to-certain-mentally-ill-people

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/president-trump-made-it-easier-mentally-ill-get-guns-when-n1039301
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fuagf

09/17/24 4:48 PM

#493704 RE: rooster #493649

rooster, Paxton knows and Gawthorpe gets it right - Is this fascism? No. Could it become fascism? Yes

"Is Donald Trump a Fascist? Part 2 of Interview with Robert Paxton, Father of Fascism Studies
[...]
Professor Paxton, thanks for staying with us for Part 2 of this conversation. Have you been surprised by the rise and the popularity of Donald Trump?
ROBERT PAXTON: Totally surprised. Not so very long ago, Trump was a guaranteed laugh line. He was considered a buffoon. All you had to do was to show the hair and call him “The Donald,” and everyone kind of snickered. And suddenly he’s this—he’s this immense power. He’s touched the nerve with his style, which has fascist overtones, encouraging violence, attacking the internal enemy and so forth, saying that the system is rotten and it needs an outsider to fix it, which is a fascist kind of appeal—make Germany great, make America great. Suddenly he’s touched a nerve, and for millions of people he is suddenly seen taken more than seriously. And that’s a strange flip. That’s a strange transformation."

Andrew Gawthorpe

Trump’s persistent hold on his base shows the power to be had in reinventing anti-American values as patriotic

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What these groups share is a belief that their very existence is threatened. Evangelical Christian support for Trump .. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/11/trump-administration-evangelical-influence-support .. is often motivated by the fear that secular liberals are seeking to crush Christianity and banish it from the land. Such a fear lends itself to support for an authoritarian who will crush the opposition before it gets a chance to strike first. Trump has shown that evangelicals will support anyone who even pretends to care about their motivating issues – abortion, Jerusalem, religious freedom – regardless of his obvious repugnance by any normal understanding of Christian values.

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An American fascism would not only marry Christianity and ultranationalism through a shared belief in conspiracies aiming to destroy America, but it would also seek to retain the support of capital. Trump has demonstrated how to combine regressive economic policies with a populist image by attacking minorities and elites. Anyone promoting progressive economic reform is dismissed as a communist and hence as un-American – another one of the conspirators, and another reason to line up behind a strongman who will keep them out of power. This is why “the Squad”, who in the worldview of the right are both communists and America-hating brown people, are the perfect foil.

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