Replies to post #488293 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[newmedman]

he ran for public office you dolt and you're not allowed to be enlisted and do both . He also served 24 years before he retired because he was running for public office and if the timeline is correct, a bunch of shit happened before the Iraq debacle. Please don't be a moron.

Like this chick here, you've never ventured out of your home state but care to make opinions for the rest of the country based on what your friends at the local Piggly Wiggly have to say.

Laura Ingraham: If you know Minnesota well, and I know it well -- especially Milwaukee -- it's changed. pic.twitter.com/2L0HvrHMo6

— aliciasadowski (@aliciasadowski6) August 7, 2024

[BOREALIS]

COWARDLY President Bone Spur has no vets in his family tree

Lou Cerrone
Published Feb. 12, 2020

Central to our way of life, and an essential part of the American social contract, is the citizen soldier, who leaves his or her citizen life behind to fight to protect our rights and freedoms. We honor them for their bravery and selflessness.

But for all of our current commander in chief’s boasting about his support of our veterans and current members of our military, and their support for him, he has never served one day in the U.S. military, thanks to a series of deferments.

First he received four educational deferments. After he graduated, he was classified 1A (fit and able to serve), then 1Y (temporary physical deferment), and finally 4F (permanent physical deferment), all due to (alleged) bone spurs in his feet. Fortunately, this condition does not affect his ability to play golf today.

However, it is rumored that the daughter of Trump’s deceased podiatrist said it was “family lore” that her father helped President Trump avoid the draft. It is also rumored that Trump acknowledged to advisers that he concocted this fake injury to avoid military service, because he “wasn’t going to Vietnam.” Some might call this draft dodging.

It seems that this lack (or avoidance) of military service is not unique to Donald Trump.
For three generations, Trump’s paternal line has neither offered nor performed any military service, voluntarily or through the draft. They all chose not to contribute their services to the U.S. military, the most patriotic and honorable manner in which to display one's patriotism and love of country.

In Donald Trump’s case, he was uniquely qualified to serve his country, having graduated in 1964 from the New York Military Academy, where he was an officer in an officially established ROTC program.

From the date of the birth of Donald Trump’s grandfather in 1869 to the birth of Tristan Miles Trump in 2011, we see zero military service.
This also includes: Frederick Trump (1869-1918); Henry Trump (1899-1900); Fred Christ Trump Sr. (1905-1999); John George Trump (1907-1985); Fred Christ Trump Jr. (1938-1981); Donald J. Trump (1946 to present); Robert Trump (1948-present); John Gordon Trump (1938-2012); Fred Trump III (1962-present); Donald John Trump Jr. (1977-present); Eric Frederick Trump (1984-present); Barron William Trump (2006-present); Christopher Trump (1995-present); William Trump (1999-present); Donald John Trump III (2009-present); Tristan Milos Trump (2011-present); Spencer Frederick Trump (2012-present); John Frederick (Trump) Kushner (2013 to present); and Theodore James (Trump) Kushner (2016 to present).

https://www.capecodtimes.com/story/opinion/columns/2020/02/12/president-bone-spur-has-no/1724792007/

[blackhawks]

False equivalency flag thrown on you, again.

Putting in papers for retirement after 24 years of service with multiple deployments is NOT the same as using phony bone spurs to AVOID service.

The NG, and in my case the USMCR, are not evasive of service unless YOU believe that recruits are sent to 'special boot camps' distinguished from 'regular' boot camps and that a 6 year commitment is a walk in the park.

I remember my DI referring to us as scum bag reserves. His tune changed towards the end of boot camp when he shared with us that the first draftees into the Corps since WWII were arriving. 'At least you guys volunteered. You don't want to see how were going to treat these scumbag draftees.' So different degrees of scumbags.

He was right about our not wanting to see that. I muttered to a fellow recruit 'what time does the f'ing bus leave for Lejeune?'

Anyway I did it so I could work part time and go to school part time. No part time for those two during a wartime draft without part time military service. Simple triad and the right one for me as Vietnam spiraled into the disaster it became.

Though no one ever said they wouldn't show up if activated. I'd say go figure but everyone of us had chosen the most dangerous branch and it was an infantry unit. So a screw or two loose right off the bat. Phony tough or foolishly brave?

Perhaps a Gumpian 'a little a both'.

[arizona1]

I'm sure you're super excited to endorse your everyday working MAGA politician. You know, those guys you're always holding up who represent your WV values.

The story of Republicans blatantly, publicly, going out of their way to recruit self-funding, ultra-millionaires to run in key U.S. Senate races has been a favorite topic of mine for some time now. It also now appears that I have understated the scope of this story.

In New Mexico, where progressive Democratic U.S. Sen. Martin Heinrich is seeking re-election, the Republican nominee is ultra-millionaire Nella Domenici, a financial executive worth between $21,285,000 and $94,120,000, according to financial disclosures. Nella Domenici is the daughter of former U.S. Senate Pete Domenici, and she has loaned her campaign $1,000,000 of her own money. New Mexico is surprisingly close right now, with the most recent poll showing Sen. Heinrich ahead by only 6%.

And of course, how could I have forgotten about Florida U.S. Sen. Rick Scott? Scott has an estimated net worth of about one quarter of a billion dollars, loaned his own campaign $5.8 million dollars during the most recent fundraising quarter. Scott is also in a surprisingly competitive race, with the most recent poll showing him ahead of the likely Democratic nominee, former Rep. Debbie Mucarsel Powell, by only 4%.

This is all in addition to Tim Sheehy in Montana (CEO worth as much as $200 million), Bernie Moreno in Ohio (car dealership owner worth as much as $168 million ), David McCormick in Pennsylvania (hedge fund manager worth as much as $200 million) and Eric Hovde in Wisconsin (financial executive worth at least $67 million). All four of these candidates have loaned their Senate campaigns at least $1.6 million, and in some cases much more (see Open Secrets and Roll Call for more info).

Add this all up, and the majority of the Republican candidates in key U.S. Senate races this year are self-funding ultra-millionaires. It's not hard to imagine what they will do with the U.S. Senate if they do get control of it.

To fight back against this attempted oligarchical takeover of the U.S. Senate, I have added Sen. Martin Heinrich and former Rep. Debbie Mucarsel Powell to the Bowers News Media "Defeat the Arch Millionaires" Act Blue page, where they join Sens. Jon Tester, Sherrod Brown, Bob Casey, and Tammy Baldwin. All six are real, down to earth people–not to mention good Democrats in must-win races–with a track record of delivering for their constituents, not their own bottom lines.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/05/self-funded-candidates-put-166-million-in-campaigns/?link_id=13&can_id=ba13e7838fd3c6b025e3cc98ffe351c2&source=email-there-are-even-more-republican-self-funding-arch-millionaires-running-in-key-us-senate-races-than-i-realized-please-read&email_referrer=email_2412318&email_subject=florida-montana-new-mexico-ohio-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-risk