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[blackhawks]

Trump had nothing to do with Warp Speed. ANY president would have followed the recommendation that CAME to him

He is on the record as stating that he 'wanted to downplay the pandemic, so as not to panic us'. Look it up. He scoffed at mitigation measures, held super spreader rallies and got sick himself.

He said NOTHING about the vaxxes for over a full year after they were introduced, and then he was roundly booed by his moronic supporters when he finally mentioned them, you ill-informed nitwit.

[fuagf]

spartex, Your recall is extra-selective. How about Trump's playing the danger down, and his disinfectant solution. How about the fact the first vaccine out was not a result of Warp Speed. And the fact Trump had very little to do with Warp Speed except giving the go-ahead.

"[...]Remember Warp Speed program; Regeneron antibiotic cocktail that saved lives... "

On the cocktail - Trump Overstates Status of COVID-19 Antibody Drugs
By Jessica McDonald Posted on October 8, 2020
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-overstates-status-of-covid-19-antibody-drugs/

How about all the Trump negligence outlined in the insert below:

Climate change is deadly. Exactly how deadly?

"Special Series - The Undercount: The invisible death toll from climate change"

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[Insert: Remember Trump cuts to major agencies caring for the health of American citizens. One unarguable
point arising from the information around that is that Trump has never cared for the care or welfare
of one American more than he has cared for his own political interests. See again:

Trump's cult is a death cult. At least, on the best evidence available, it is accurate, fair and just to say Trump's
cult, energized by Fox News, was a death cult. And it has cost both American families and the GOP big time.
Excerpt: The states with the highest COVID death rates in 2021:
1. Oklahoma 2. Alabama 3. W. Virginia 4. Arizona 5. Kentucky
6. Mississippi 7. Wyoming 8. Florida 9. Georgia 10. S. Carolina
Source: Johns Hopkins; U.S. Census; CDC
Trump carried 8 out of 10 of these states. None of them are blue states.
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Inside the Fall of the CDC
This article in full is very, very long.
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Leonardo Santamaria, special to ProPublica
How the world’s greatest public health organization was brought to its knees by a virus, the president and the capitulation of its own leaders, causing damage that could last much longer than the coronavirus.
by James Bandler, Patricia Callahan, Sebastian Rotella and Kirsten Berg Oct. 15, 2020, 1:12 p.m. EDT
[...]The week before, the CDC had published its investigation of an outbreak at an Arkansas church that had resulted in four deaths. The agency’s scientific journal recently had detailed a superspreader event in which 52 of the 61 singers at a 2½-hour choir practice developed COVID-19. Two died.
P - Butler, an infectious disease specialist with more than three decades of experience, seemed the ideal person to lead the effort. Trained as one of the CDC’s elite disease detectives, he’d helped the FBI investigate the anthrax attacks, and he’d led the distribution of vaccines during the H1N1 flu pandemic when demand far outstripped supply.
P - But days earlier, Butler and his team had suddenly found themselves on President Donald Trump’s front burner when the president began publicly agitating for churches to reopen. That Thursday, Trump had announced that the CDC would release safety guidelines for them “very soon.” He accused Democratic governors of disrespecting churches, and deemed houses of worship “essential services.”
P - Butler’s team rushed to finalize the guidance for churches, synagogues and mosques that Trump’s aides had shelved in April after battling the CDC over the language. In reviewing a raft of last-minute edits from the White House, Butler’s team rejected those that conflicted with CDC research, including a worrisome suggestion to delete a line that urged congregations to “consider suspending or at least decreasing” the use of choirs.
P - On Friday, Trump’s aides called the CDC repeatedly about the guidance, according to emails. “Why is it not up?” they demanded until it was posted on the CDC website that afternoon.
P - The next day, a furious call came from the office of the vice president: The White House suggestions were not optional. The CDC’s failure to use them was insubordinate, according to emails at the time.
P - Fifteen minutes later, one of Butler’s deputies had the agency’s text replaced with the White House version, the emails show. The danger of singing wasn’t mentioned.
P - Early that Sunday morning, as Americans across the country prepared excitedly to return to houses of worship, Butler, a churchgoer himself, poured his anguish and anger into an email to a few colleagues.
P - “I am very troubled on this Sunday morning that there will be people who will get sick and perhaps die because of what we were forced to do,” he wrote.
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ProPublica obtained hundreds of emails and other internal government documents and interviewed more than 30 CDC employees, contractors and Trump administration officials who witnessed or were involved in key moments of the crisis. Although news organizations around the world have chronicled the CDC’s stumbles in real time, ProPublica’s reporting affords the most comprehensive inside look at the escalating tensions, paranoia and pained discussions that unfolded behind the walls of CDC’s Atlanta headquarters. And it sheds new light on the botched COVID-19 tests, the unprecedented political interference in public health policy, and the capitulations of some of the world’s top public health leaders.
[Insert: If the facts around this are not accepted as definitive proof that Trump and those close to him in his administration put Trump's personal political preferences in front of caring consideration for the public health then nothing could ever be printed to convince those who still believe Trump cares for the well being of American voters more than for his own political preferences.]
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The inside story of how Trump’s denial, mismanagement and magical thinking led to the pandemic’s dark winter
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Good man! Your comment on Trump cutting CDC during his term and overseas too reminded me that these two posts jigsaw into that long very, very long one. While on it it took all my focus and i didn't make the connection before reading yours just now. These two in post headed:
P - John Oliver gets it right again. Trump fucked up on three basic facets of virus fighting - preparation, communication and coordination. On the question, Bush and Obama were on the mark. Trump lowered the drawbridge, increasing the probability any deadly airborne virus could hit America hard:
P - How Trump let coronavirus take over America
[...]
2017-2020: Withdrew CDC staff from China
Between 2017 and 2020, the Trump administration reduced the number of CDC staff in China — the presumed epicenter of the outbreak — from 47 to just 14, Reuters reported on March 25.
P - "We had a large operation of experts in China who were brought back during this administration, some of them months before the outbreak," a person who witnessed the withdrawal of U.S. personnel said. "You have to consider the possibility that our drawdown made this catastrophe more likely or more difficult to respond to."
2018: Ignored warnings from CDC
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P - Trump's "drain the swamp" means 'drain the expertise'. Excerpt from yours ..
"In May 2018, Trump ordered the NSC’s entire global health security unit shut down, calling for reassignment of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer and dissolution of his team inside the agency. The month before, then-White House National Security Advisor John Bolton pressured Ziemer’s DHS counterpart, Tom Bossert, to resign along with his team. Neither the NSC nor DHS epidemic teams have been replaced. The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent, the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced...."
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[SoxFan]

Pfizer did not take any funds to develop the Covid vaccine. Also you probably forgot your facist hero Trump’s terrible response to Covid from telling everyone it’s like the flu and will go away when it gets hot to saying masks don’t work (they did and do) in limiting Covid to ingesting horse paste and putting a light up your ass. Then again the torrent of lies from his mouth makes one wonder what reality he lives in. Most health experts say through his dismal response to Covid an extra 700,000+ died. The silver lining is the red states by and large were where most per capita died.


I think you should look at Project 2025 and see how it fucks this country up bigly