Replies to post #476202 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[B402]

Thats fine, thinking they they are a woman in a mans body,,,,Ok.....

Now follow me as I read your whole post,,,,,Genetics is weird, you get so many of this or that for every 1,000,000 lets say,,,So there will be so many people (men for this discussion) that are wired a bit differently..... I get it and have used that analogy before in discussions just not here.....

Where I disagree with current the current state of all this is they still have a mans body...I can't help that, they can't and women and girls can't... When people disagree that they shouldn't play sports with biological females it not out of discrimination, its just a plain unfair advantage...If they share bathrooms or locker rooms they are making young women and girls feel quite uncomfortable as you may well imagine....It just plain not fair to them and they shouldn't have to endure it...

In summery they have to play with the cards that are dealt to them and be respectful of the other women...And understand that like it or not they have a huge advantage in sports, and since their body is male its just not appropriate to make women and girls feel uncomfortable....Sorry, there are just some things they cannot do because of their condition...

But this is a rational discussion we are having, you didn't call me transphobic, I didn't call you misogynist,,,,,The vast majority feel as I do,,,,,Yet the left is too easy to start right in labeling everyone trans phobic without having a nuanced discussion such as this....It doesn't make me a gay hater,,, Im just taking up for girls and women's rights to keep things fair...

Its where the left makes a big mistake, they can't see the other side of the coin in all this and just demand they are treated equal in areas they just plain are not.....Then they start with the name calling....And btw to throw it in, and again like it or not, a comedian has the right to make fun of who ever, hillbillies, transgender and whomever they chose...I will go on to say those that are actually haters of all things different have that right too (but that is the few)...Just like I don't much care for those that would burn the flag,,,dang if they don't have the right to do it....But let them hate for hates sake it only makes them look bad..

All too many people are cancelled out of their jobs or professions for trying to have the same discussion we just had...That is as wrong as any other cancel culture from no matter what group or affiliation..

So hopefully this will clear any air on both sides, well see how its taken and go from there, cause I'm sure not going to type this much again...

[janice shell]

All of us were conditioned on the male-female thing. That was it science said. Male or female. Nothing in between.

Not "all". Hermaphrodites aren't all that uncommon.

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Hermaphroditism-(Intersex).aspx#:~:text=An%20individual%20with%20true%20gonadal,have%20a%20combination%20of%20both.

Ages ago--I think I was in fifth or sixth grade, perhaps--the sister (or some other relative) of a friend of my aunt had a hermaphrodite baby. I wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't overheard my mother and father talking about it. Naturally everyone was shocked and horrified. But the doctors assured them it wasn't a big deal, and they'd just "fix" the male organs, leaving the baby a woman. I don't think anyone even gave thought about whether it'd feel like a woman once it hit puberty.

There've always been hermaphrodites. Most people just weren't told about them. And if one was born in the family, it was "fixed", at least in this country.

That's just one possibility. I'm sure not all trans people are hermaphrodites. Complex subject.