Knowing a bit about how reformative Norway prisons could be i neglected to read this article in your earlier reply. Small excerpts:
Take a quick look at the numbers: Only 20% of prisoners who come through Norway’s prisons reoffend within two years of being released, according to a 2010 report commissioned by the governments of several Nordic countries. P - At Bastoy, that figure is even lower, officials say: about 16%. P - Compare that with the three-year re-offense rate for state prisons in the U.S.: 43%, according to a 2011 report from the Pew Center on the States, a nonpartisan research group. Older government reports put that number even higher, at more than five in 10. [...] The goal, Nilsen said, is to create an environment where people can build self-esteem and reform their lives. “They look at themselves in the mirror, and they think, ‘I am s***. I don’t care. I am nothing,’ ” he said. This prison, he says, gives them a chance to see they have worth, “to discover, ‘I’m not such a bad guy.’“ [...] Inmates are screened to make sure they’re mentally stable and unlikely to plot an escape before they come to Bastoy. The vast majority – 97%, according to Nilsen – have served part of their sentences at higher-security jails in Norway. In the four years Nilsen has been heading up the prison, there have been no “serious” incidents of violence, he said. P - By the time they get to Bastoy, inmates view the island as a relief. P - ‘It’s still prison’ P - There’s a question inmates here get asked frequently: When your sentence is up, will you want to leave? P - The answer, despite the nice conditions, is always an emphatic yes. P - “It’s still prison,” said Luke, 23. He didn’t want his full name used for fear future employers would see it. “In your mind, you are locked (up).” .. https://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/24/world/europe/norway-prison-bastoy-nicest/index.html .
It's a beauty. Knowing how fixed the instinct for revenge is in so many minds a similar psychology would be impossible to reach in most places in the U.S.A., or in Australia. Still, the results are huge. Think of the money which would be saved in just even a start in the U.S. system. Think of the money which could be put into mental health and other preventive measures. Results speak for themselves. And it is heartwarming to know how many Americans are working to help others working for positive change:
Trump, of course, because his crimes involve a betrayal of the highest oath in the country, and because he has never expressed even a tiny hint of any regret about his actions should not be a candidate for incarceration in a 'nicer' place.
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