Replies to post #459214 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[newmedman]

Wow, you're really digging in deep here lately.

Hunter was selling F'n Influence
Qualified as the illusion of or selling The 'Biden' Brand (likened to 'I don't recall' by Reagan)

"The illusion of"... really? That's not how the law works buddy. He either took bribes or he didn't and since he's been under investigation for 6 years now and not one shred of evidence has been put forward to prove the GOP wet dream, I figure it's all a big steaming pile of excrement. It's also why they won't release any transcripts from their closed door, sham hearings. All they have to do is give these mental midgets a good story because they know it will never get fact checked by them.

They just want to plant their "illusion" in the brains of soft minded people who will believe anything they are told without any facts to back it up. Obviously they got you too. The investigation started and ran for almost 3 years under the Trump administration so if they found anything beside his dick pics it would have been national news. Sweetheart deal my ass. Anyone else in this country wouldn't have not even been tried in those cases. If his last name wasn't Biden, it would have been no different.

Devon Archer offered nothing to the conversation and was even discredited by people who actually practice law, unlike those kooks that run the oversight committee and turn it into a clown show.

Not to mention, all of these "illusions" occurred when Joe was a private citizen and hadn't even considered running for office again.

I tell ya what, I'm not going to break it all out for you because I've done it numerous times on this board already but you go ahead and find me one speck of what you think is the truth about Hunter Biden peddling influence and I'll shoot it out of the sky for you.

It's not my fault that all you MAGAts are so mentally challenged that it paints a bad picture in your imaginations. That I can't stop.... but I can steer you all in the right direction.

[fuagf]

B402, When Trump and any connected with him have been accused of wrong doing Republicans have overwhelmingly cried persecution. Republicans and their supporters have consistently attacked law enforcement agencies and the practitioners within them as being crook. And as going after Trump, his family or others connected unfairly. Republicans have consistently cried victimization. Prominent Republican voices have consistently exhibited disrespect for the rule of law.

On the other hand when Hunter was charged Dems consistently said if he is guilty he should be punished. When Republicans have gone after Biden Democrates have consistently said, "Where is the evidence." Democrats have not attacked courts and prosecutors as acting crookedly.

Your demand for some kind of ethical utopia is unrealistically naive. Your unbalanced approach to the both parties simply underlines your own hypocrisy.

[fuagf]

B402, Also and again: And i don't recall any concern from you at all
about the Republican drive to contaminate American democracy. See:

Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun

"Creeping Fascism SUXX, and Other Hot Takes"

[...]

For more than a year now, with tacit and explicit support from their party’s national leaders, state Republican operatives have been building an apparatus of election theft. Elected officials in Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states have studied Donald Trump’s crusade to overturn the 2020 election. They have noted the points of failure and have taken concrete steps to avoid failure next time. Some of them have rewritten statutes to seize partisan control of decisions about which ballots to count and which to discard, which results to certify and which to reject.
They are driving out or stripping power from election officials who refused to go along with the plot last November, aiming to replace them with exponents of the Big Lie. They are fine-tuning a legal argument that purports to allow state legislators to override the choice of the voters.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=167072165

Then there are other prominent players of the Republican far-right doing their best to subvert American democracy. Michael Flynn and Cleta Mitchell to name must two. See:

joyceschoice, Yep, Flynn should be there, with Trump, Leo, Rufos et al. He had slipped from attention:
...Trump security adviser Flynn resigns after leaks suggest he tried to cover up Russia talks
[...]And Flynn is a friend of the worst political conspiracies.
The Digital General
How Trump Ally Michael Flynn Nurtured — and Profited From — the QAnon Conspiracy Theory
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173481752

Thank you for the reminder.

Former Trump adviser Michael Flynn ‘at the center’ of new movement based on conspiracies and Christian nationalism

[...]

[Umm, seems probably to be somehow connected with -- lol, remember also, Cleta --
NEVER FORGET -- Remember also Trump's ongoing anti-democratic plan was always to replace non-Trump people with 'election was stolen'
Trump loyalists in electoral offices nationwide. The name of the woman he put in charge...
[...]Another name i'd forgotten - The Man Who Made January 6 Possible [Johnny McEntee]
[...]AHAHAHA! Got the bitch.
Lawyer Who Plotted to Overturn Trump Loss Recruits Election Deniers to Watch Over the Vote
Cleta, i'll never forget again, chuckle .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173322259 .. Mitchell.]

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173667316

[sortagreen]

Hunter was selling F'n Influence

Hunter Biden never worked for us, was never elected by us.

So Devon Archer says x,y,z. No one would mess with Burisma because Biden's father was Joe Biden. What does he offer as evidence?

Why would Cofer Black be on the board of Burisma. Shouldn't someone be prosecuted for that? Hypocrisy, I tell you!

Why was Aleksander Kwasniewski on the board of Burisma?

How about, because that's how corporate boards and corporate governance work?

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Aleksander Kwasniewski, a former Polish president who is on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma, said Thursday that Hunter Biden was indeed chosen to join its advisory board because of his name. He said that is simply how the world of business works.

But Kwasniewski (kvash-NYEF-skee) insisted in an interview with The Associated Press that Biden was an active board member who helped the company, and that he never used his relationship with his father, Joe Biden, to further the company’s interests.

“I understand that if someone asks me to be part of some project it’s not only because I’m so good, it’s also because I am Kwasniewski and I am a former president of Poland,” he said. “And this is all inter-connected. No-names are a nobody. Being Biden is not bad. It’s a good name.”

“I understand that if someone asks me to be part of some project it’s not only because I’m so good, it’s also because I am Kwasniewski and I am a former president of Poland,” he said. “And this is all inter-connected. No-names are a nobody. Being Biden is not bad. It’s a good name.”
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Kwasniewski also said Burisma members never tried to use Hunter Biden to curry favor with the administration of Barack Obama when Joe Biden was vice president.

“He was a normal member of this group,” he said. “We didn’t ask him — and he never said anything — about his father.”

Only at dinners was Biden sometimes asked how his father was doing and on one occasion Biden spoke about the death of his brother, Beau, Kwasniewski said.

He said Hunter Biden carried out research and brought a unique American perspective to the company, including in the areas of corporate governance, capital markets and gas drilling equipment, where Americans are world leaders.

“He collected information,” Kwasniewski said. “He was useful for us because he knew something that we didn’t know.”

Biden’s time on the board from 2014 to 2019 has become a focus of the impeachment hearings into President Donald Trump. Trump is under scrutiny for pressing Ukraine’s young new president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, to carry out investigations into the Bidens and Burisma, withholding for a time nearly $400 million in military aid as a war drags on in Ukraine’s east against Russia-backed separatists.

Kwasniewski said requests made to Ukraine’s prosecutor by Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, seeking to obtain comments depicting Burisma as corrupt, created a dangerous situation for the company.

Asked to respond to Trump describing Hunter Biden as a “disgrace” due to his Burisma connection, Kwasniewski shot back: “This man is speaking about someone who is disgraced? Donald Trump? It should be forbidden for him.”

Nevertheless, some U.S. officials at the time thought it was inappropriate for Hunter Biden to be serving on the company’s board when his father, as vice president and Obama’s emissary to the region, was pushing Ukraine to clean up systemic corruption.

During the impeachment inquiry this fall, George Kent, a career diplomat overseeing Ukraine policy, testified that in 2015 he warned the vice president’s staff that his son’s position with the company “could create the perception of a conflict of interest” but nothing was done about it.

https://apnews.com/article/37424b8a0a994c1a935c5831643a84e3

[arizona1]

At the very least Dems should shout down hunter as disgraceful, selling corruption even the illusion of is disgusting..

Tyler Boebert sex tape. Let's put him on the stand. As a matter of fact, let's put you on the stand. You knew all about the drug abuse and you allowed it to go on. #disgusting#disgraceful

https://twitter.com/i/status/1763963924301660532

Lauren Boebert warns about,... criminals coming from Venezuela.

Let me guess- they're breaking into cars and stealing credit cards? 😛pic.twitter.com/SgbZKmTVdihttps://t.co/SgbZKmTVdi

— Roshan Rinaldi (@Roshan_Rinaldi) March 2, 2024

[arizona1]

Yeah, we were all pissed Jared and Ivanka Used their position to secure highly lucrative copyright deals worth billions.

Really? When did you EVER post how pissed you were about Ivanka and Jared using their position to secure highly lucrative copyright deals worth billions? Do a search and you won't find it. Because you're a MAGAt and use throw-a-way lines like that to pretend you're not. You don't fool anyone on this board. #MAGAt