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01/06/24 6:02 PM
Hamas will not lose the will to fight. Nor will the Palestinian victims of its actions and the Israeli response insist, to any meaningful effect, upon an end to violence. As on the Israeli side of the equation since the horrors of 7 October, a fundamental line has been crossed.
Western rhetoric notwithstanding, there will be no two-state solution, nor much prospect of meaningful steps being taken towards achieving one. Instead, there will be recurring cycles of violence.
Israel will prevail in those conflicts with the Palestinians until, one day, it doesn’t. And when that day comes, even generations from now, the reckoning will be terrible.
"Remember, from the river to the sea - Greater Israel has always been the most powerful Zionists' all-time goal. "
From the beginning, Zionists advocated a "Jewish State" not just in Palestine, but also in Jordan, southern Lebanon, and the Golan Heights as well. In 1918 Ben-Gurion described the future "Jewish state's" frontiers in details as follows:
"to the north, the Litani river [in southern Lebanon], to the northeast, the Wadi 'Owja, twenty miles south of Damascus; the southern border will be mobile and pushed into Sinai at least up to Wadi al-'Arish; and to the east, the Syrian Desert, including the furthest edge of Transjordan" (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 87 https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story600.html)
Map of Greater Israeli as submitted by the Word Zionist Organization soon after the end of WWI
In an article published by Ben-Gurion in 1918, titled "The Rights of the Jews and others in Palestine," he conceded that the Palestinian Arabs have the same rights as Jews. He explained that Palestinians had these rights since they had inhabited the land "for hundreds of years". He stated in the article:
"Palestine is not an empty country . . . on no account must we injure the rights of the inhabitants." Ben-Gurion often returned to this point, emphasizing that Palestinian Arabs had "the full right" to an independent economic, cultural, and communal life, but not political. (Shabtai Teveth, p. 37-38 https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story795.html)
But Ben-Gurion set limits. The Palestinian people were incapable by themselves of developing Palestine, and they had no right to stand in the way of the Jews. He argued in 1918, that Jews' rights sprang not only from the past but also from the future. In 1924 he declared:
"We do not recognize the right of the [Palestinian] Arabs to rule the country, since Palestine is still undeveloped and awaits its builders." In 1928 he pronounced that "the [Palestinian] Arabs have no right to close the country to us [Jews]. What right do they have to the Negev desert, which is uninhabited?"; and in 1930, "The [Palestinian] Arabs have no right to the Jordan river, and no right to prevent the construction of a power plant [by a Jewish concern]. They have a right only to that which they have created and to their homes." (Shabtai Teveth, p. 38)
https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story638.html
“Hamza was not part of me. He was all of me.”
— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) January 7, 2024
Al Jazeera’s Wael al-Dahdouh says goodbye to one more family member, his son Hamza, 'just like droves of people here do every day, every hour and every second.'
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.. on social media. "Israel must be held accountable for this eradication of journalism in Gaza. We will continue to refer to the International Criminal Court so that maximum priority is given to crimes against journalists. Justice must be served."According to @RSF_inter figures, the deaths of Hamza and Moustafa bring to 79 the number of journalists killed in Gaza by Israeli strikes. 79 journalists killed! This unbearable massacre must stop. Israel must be held accountable for this eradication of journalism in Gaza. We…
— Christophe Deloire (@cdeloire) January 7, 2024
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