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blackhawks

12/13/23 11:28 PM

#456628 RE: hap0206 #456625

Over simplification from you, again. MacArthur wanted to lay down a string of A-bombs along the Yalu to block Chinese intervention. And we were already engaging Chinese flagged Migs piloted by Russians.

MacArthur had already turned down Air Force proposals to fire bomb North Korean cities,[32] and suggested that atomic bombs could be used to isolate North Korea by taking out bridges and tunnels. The Army staff considered this impractical.[30][33] On 28 July, the Joint Chiefs decided to send ten nuclear-capable B-29 bombers of the 9th Bombardment Wing to Guam as a deterrent to Chinese action against Taiwan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief_of_Douglas_MacArthur
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zab

12/14/23 8:28 AM

#456639 RE: hap0206 #456625

Truman saw China, and those 300,000 troops and learned after just finishing World War II, that the Atom Bomb was now a part of a country's arsenal.

Does the world learn from the deaths of 75-80 million, or do we just keep having wars until we drop atomic bombs all over the world and make this place unlivable.

Once again, you always know the future, but in this forum never have any answers for dealing with the realities of the world.

You cannot even get anyone in this forum to deal with your responses, at least here we respond, in the world, those leaders, like North Korea, China, and Russia would take one look at your posts, and just go to war. But you think war is the answer to all of the world's problems.

Most of the world believes that there must be a civilized way to solve the problems facing the worlds populations. You just want everyone to keep killing each other. You actually think that is the only way to solve problems.
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fuagf

12/14/23 7:36 PM

#456688 RE: hap0206 #456625

hap0206, Ignorance is bliss, eh. If opinionated opinion is based upon fact then it might be worth reading. Your

"Nah, zab -- that was/is the Korean war -- you know, 1950, the year you were born -- the war that set the standard for all future wars -- no more unconditional surrender wars -- negotiate the cease fire -- live with the enemy forever -- Truman fired McArthur who did not believe in negotiated settlements -- so we wait for the abomb coming from NK."

is neither. You should tell Netanyahu that "the war that set the standard for all future wars" was to a significant part a war of restraint.

"Omar Bradley responded that George was quite mistaken—and, by implication, that MacArthur was quite misleading. The Chinese were not fighting all out, not by a great deal. “They have not used air against our front line troops, against our lines of communication in Korea, our ports; they have not used air against our bases in Japan or against our naval air forces.” China’s restraint in these areas had been crucial to the survival of American and U.N. forces in Korea. On balance, Bradley said, the limited nature of the war benefited the United States at least as much as it did the Chinese. “We are fighting under rather favorable rules for ourselves.”"
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George Marshall, the secretary of defense and a five-star general himself, made the same argument. Marshall, insisting on “the greatest concern for confidentiality,” said he had asked the joint chiefs just hours before: “What happens to the Army if we do bomb, and what happens to our Army if we don’t bomb in that way.” The chiefs’ conclusion: “Their general view was that the loss of advantage with our troops on the ground was actually more than equaled by the advantages which we were deriving from not exposing our vulnerability to air attacks.”
P - In other words—and this was Marshall’s crucial point, as it had been Vandenberg’s—the limitations on the fighting in Korea, so loudly assailed by MacArthur and his supporters, in fact favored the American side.
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Tell Netanyahu some restraint on his side would be to Israel's benefit, in the long run. Just as it was to China's benefit
during the "the war that set the standard for all future wars." Just as it was to America's benefit back then.