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[sortagreen]

Neither one of the impeachments were a trial, they never went to trial and they were only hearings.

They did go past the hearing. The Senate portion of the impeachment process is called a trial, but it's not a trial in the sense that Trump's lawyers are using it. They ought to be sanctioned for that argument.

[fuagf]

We all face trials every day. Some we beat others we don't. Seems every site saw the impeachment proceedings against Trump as trials:

'Not Guilty': Trump Acquitted On 2 Articles Of Impeachment As Historic Trial Closes

February 5, 20204:33 PM ET

By Philip Ewing

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Updated at 5:43 p.m. ET

Senators voted on Wednesday afternoon to acquit President Trump on two articles of impeachment — abuse of power and obstruction of Congress — after a historically unusual but typically contentious trial.

Forty-eight senators supported a verdict of guilty on Article I; 52 voted not guilty. Forty-seven senators supported a verdict of guilty on Article II; 53 voted not guilty. The Senate would have needed 67 votes to convict Trump on either article.

The result of the process had never been in question after the House voted to impeach Trump in December. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said months ago that he considered it "inconceivable" that a sufficient number of Republicans would break rank and support removing Trump from office.
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One surprise on Wednesday, however, was that one Republican voted to convict and remove Trump on Article I: Utah Sen. Mitt Romney.

In a statement after the vote, White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham said the president's acquittal is a "full vindication and exoneration" of Trump.

Continued Grisham: "only the president's political opponents – all Democrats, and one failed Republican presidential candidate – voted for the manufactured impeachment articles."

Trump said on Twitter he would speak about the vote on Thursday.

Romney, never a close ally of Trump, said in a tearful speech on the Senate floor on Wednesday that he felt compelled by the oath he swore in Trump's case to act on his conviction that the president's actions were "grievously wrong."

Although Romney said he expected to be "vehemently denounced," he is believed to be the first senator in history to vote to convict in the impeachment trial of a president of his own party.

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/05/801429948/not-guilty-trump-acquitted-on-2-articles-of-impeachment-as-historic-trial-closes
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Article I, Section 3, Clause 6:

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Just as the Constitution vests the House with "sole"1 authority to impeach government officials,2 it entrusts the Senate with the "sole" power to try impeachments.3 And just as the Constitution authorizes the House to establish its own procedures, including for impeachments, it empowers the Senate to determine its own rules for impeachment trial proceedings.4

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S3-C6-1/ALDE_00000036/

Seems the trial starts when it gets to the Senate.

PS: As sortagreen said. Saw late.