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blackhawks

10/09/23 1:19 PM

#453293 RE: Zardiw #453289

I stand by the article I posted, which concedes some Nazi influence in Ukraine. Control of Zelensky? Bullshit.

The reaction of NATO tells me that Putin is the threat, NOT Ukrainian Nazis. Also, I don;t take American Nazis as representative of the U.S. as a whole.

Yes, I can read a map as well as I can read Putin's intentions and your political leanings. Like Trump and the RW assholes in the GOP House you're a Putin apologist.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/morninginamerica/cold-war-2-0-has-started-inside-putins-strategy-to-rebuild-the-soviet-union/

The relationship between Ukraine and Russia has evolved in the more than 20 years since Ukraine has become its own nation. 87% of those born after independence was declared in 1991 identify as Ukrainian while 21 percent of those born before 1991 call themselves “Soviet people.” But this does vary by region, 80% of Western Ukrainians want to be economically tied to the EU versus just 26% in eastern Ukraine.

Vittert said Putin is using propaganda and spreading falsehoods to paint a very different picture in Russia in order to rebuild the Soviet Union, similar to the way Adolf Hitler did prior to World War II.

“If you look at the way Hitler talked about Czechoslovakia, the way Hitler came to power and the way Hitler talked about uniting the fatherland of Germany and avenging World War I, it is the exact same language. It’s the exact same justifications that Vladimir Putin is now using to justify going into Ukraine,” Vittert said. “Vladimir Putin has said time and time and time again, that he does not view stopping at Ukraine as his end goal. He’s talked about reuniting the greater Soviet Union, which includes Poland, that includes the Baltic states that are now members of NATO.”
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fuagf

10/09/23 7:04 PM

#453308 RE: Zardiw #453289

ZarGhost (Zardiw) Man, rabbit holes can be captivating, eh. You've been informed Putin invaded Ukraine not because he had been threatened by NATO.
And not because of gross Nazi influence in Ukraine. But because he saw the disintegration of the Soviet Union as a catastrophe. See:

A message to all who see Christian vales under threat by naughty Democrats and others who support inclusivity of groups who have, for different reasons, been persecuted for a period longer than any of us have lived. Putin feels as you do. See excerpt from a post of December, 2022:

'Russia says military drone attempted to strike gas facility near Moscow'
Vladimir Putin: a miracle defender of Christianity or the most evil man?

[...]

Despite the Bolshevik years, this sense of a holy destiny of Kyiv and Mother Russia has never left and Putin is its champion. Under Putin the Orthodox church has boasted that it is building and opening three churches a day, and the church celebrated the return of Crimea. Little wonder the Orthodox Patriarch Kirill a decade ago called Putin “a miracle of God .. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-russia-putin-religion-idUKTRE81722Y20120208 ”.

And in Putin’s mind it goes further.

Just as he probed me about Christianity .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/christianity .. in the west, he reportedly said in a speech in 2013: “We see many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of western civilisation. They are denying the moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual.”

Kyiv must be taken, in his mind, to preserve the Christian battle. And there may be many Christians in the west who agree with some of his sentiments.

A miracle defender of Christianity or the most evil man? Well, it is Ukrainian Christians among others whom he is now slaughtering indiscriminately and he has little understanding of Jesus, who said “blessed are the peacemakers”.

No, this is a power vision threaded through with nationalistic Christian theology. And evil is the
right word when a leader uses religion to justify in God’s name invasion, violence and annihilation.


* Tim Costello is a fellow at the Centre for Public Christianity in Sydney

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171417034

Sigh. A miracle from God. Just like Trump, eh.

Map shows how Russia's border with NATO more than doubles with Finland as a member
Sinéad Baker and Erin Snodgrass
Updated
Apr 4, 2023, 10:53 PM AEST


https://www.businessinsider.com/map-how-russias-nato-border-expands-with-finaland-sweden-members-2022-5

Chorus --- Old borders new borders old borders