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[blackhawks]

Read, for comprehension, you ill-informed f'ing hysteric.

How Iran can use the $6 billion involved in the release of 5 Americans

Kyle Feldscher Jennifer Hansler
By Kyle Feldscher and Jennifer Hansler, CNN
Updated 6:01 PM EDT, Mon September 18, 2023


Hostage deal with Iran was 'a tough decision for Biden,' says NSC's John Kirby
10:55 - Source: CNN
CNN
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The Iranian government now has access to $6 billion of their funds to be used for humanitarian purposes as a part of a wider deal that allowed five Americans who had been imprisoned in Iran to go free.

The money – which had been held in restricted accounts in South Korea before being transferred to different restricted accounts in Qatar via banks in Europe – is a key part of the deal. Iranian and US officials were notified by Qatar on Monday that the transfer had finished, according to a source briefed on details of the matter.

While the Iranian government claims it can use the money however it pleases, the Biden administration has repeatedly stressed that the funds are narrowly limited to non-sanctionable purchases like food and medicine, and that they will be subject to strict oversight.

Moreover, US officials have made clear that the funding, which is Iran’s, not from US taxpayer dollars, is not under the control of the Iranian government.

Brett McGurk, White House coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa, said Monday that “no funds are going to Iran at all.”

“These funds are paid to vetted third-party vendors for food, medicine, medical products and agricultural products to go into Iran over a period of years. If there is any diversion, we’ll know it and we’ll lock up these accounts,” he told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “The Lead.”

Republicans have been quick to criticize the deal, alleging that the transfer of the money is harming American credibility abroad and could be an incentive for US adversaries to wrongfully detain American citizens.

White House coordinator for strategic communications John Kirby said it was simply the “result of months and months of hard, hard work by our diplomats, particularly at the State Department, in bringing this about.”

What the $6 billion is and how it is supposed to be used

The money made accessible to Iran as a part of the deal are Iranian funds that have been held in restricted South Korean accounts. Sources told CNN the funds came from oil sales that were allowed and placed into accounts set up under the Trump administration.

The money is now available to the Iranian government for purchase of non-sanctionable items such as food and medicine. But it is not totally under the control of the Iranian government and will not reside in Iranian banks, according to the US.

The funds began to be transferred out of the South Korean accounts after four of the five Americans were moved from Evin Prison to house arrest last month. Earlier this month, Secretary of State Antony Blinken approved a waiver to allow financial institutions in Europe to move the money to Qatar without fear of invoking US sanctions.

And the Iranian government was not given the ability to access those funds until US officials had eyes on the five Americans when they landed in Doha, US government officials familiar with the matter said.

Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi said in an interview last week that the Iranian government will decide how and where to spend the $6 billion in frozen assets. Kirby said that statement was “flat out wrong.”

“This is not a payment of any kind, it’s not ransom, these aren’t US taxpayer dollars, and we haven’t lifted a single one of our sanctions on Iran – Iran will be getting no sanctions relief,” Kirby said. “We will continue to counter Iran, the Iran regime’s human rights abuses, will continue to counter their destabilizing actions abroad, its support for terrorism, attack on maritime shipping in the Gulf, and its continued support for Russia’s war against Ukraine.”

“The Iranians are telling their people basically what they think they want to hear. Raisi’s comments were entirely off base,” a senior State Department official said. “But we know the truth, and so we’re confident in in this.”

How the US says it is conducting oversight

Biden administration officials have stressed each transaction using the funds will be monitored by the US Treasury Department.

“We are implementing this arrangement through the establishment of what we are calling the humanitarian channel in Qatar,” which is designed to protect against money laundering and misuse of the funds, a senior administration official said.

Kirby said last week that the money is going to be held by the Qatari National Bank and is available for withdrawal by request from the Iranian government.

“The Iranians can request withdrawals for it for humanitarian purposes, and the countries and it will be, and us – we will have oversight, sufficient oversight into the request itself, to validate the request and then to deliver funds appropriate to that request,” Kirby told reporters.

“The money will then go to qualified vendors to purchase and deliver the food, the medical supplies, into Iran. So, it will go directly to aid organizations or appropriate relevant organizations inside Iran so that the Iranian people can benefit from it.”

On Monday, Kirby stressed that the US can stop a transaction from taking place if necessary, and US officials have stressed that if they find misuse of the funds, they can freeze the accounts.

“If Iran tries to divert the funds or use them for anything other than the limited humanitarian purposes authorized, we’ll take action to lock up the funds,” the senior administration official said.

Trita Parsi, executive vice president of the Quincy Institute in Washington, DC, told CNN that the terms of the agreement are so strict on Iran that they are “humiliating.”

“The biggest thing this (US) administration fears is to be accused of being soft on Iran,” said Parsi. “In order to balance the fact that they made a deal to secure the release of Americans, they are imposing new sanctions and doing things that make them look really tough.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/politics/iran-money-explainer/index.html

[zab]

Hey, dumb fuck, Israel and their wonderful defense use that money that is given to them to prevent these attacks. The only people who give a shit about the trump trials is trump, that is why he keeps running from each of them and hiring lawyers to keep stopping them. We are sure sorry the Republicans are a bunch of assholes that squander the taxpayer's money.

Meanwhile President Biden again reached over to work with the Republicans to address the border, and once again the republicans cry about it. Someone like you can always cry from the sidelines., you never do anything. Once again, it is not like you have answers to any of the problems of a modern society, or even working with the world. You know like President Biden who keeps getting things done, while you keep needing a new box of tissues to address your whimpering each day when you wake up and see that 8 billion people in the world are trying to change their lives.

You are not very bright, if you think the world has not changed in the last 1000 years, guess what, the world has changed dramatically in just the past 20 years. Even funnier, how many new countries have come into existence Since 1990, 34 brand new countries have come into existence. At least now we have a President Biden, and he does more in one day, then you have done in your entire life.

So, wat is your excuse for not doing anything today to address the great issues of the day.

[zab]

You do know that Israel is our ally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_relations

Take a few minutes and read something before you post something and make an even bigger ass out of yourself for not even knowing the history of America and Israel throughout the decades.

Have you even read a book in your lifetime.

[fuagf]

livefree_ordie, All war is a waste. Your Christian Putin created one, didn't he. Would you have them kill each other in Ukraine too? What is your position on aid to Ukraine?

Your Zionists created a war in the Middle East. No, Israel has not created the bed they find themselves in, have they. Is good you have mentioned Israel since i was going to go there again today. It's like your conservative guy who said slavery was good for blacks.

DeSantis doubles down on claim that some Blacks benefited from slavery
GOP presidential candidate draws renewed criticism after suggesting slavery helped African Americans develop skills such as being a blacksmith
By Kevin Sullivan and Lori Rozsa July 22, 2023 at 5:32 p.m. EDT
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/22/desantis-slavery-curriculum/

Wake up, jerk. Jews and Palestinians lived peacefully together for ages, then your Zionists fucked up their scene. Burst your bullshit mental bubble. READ

Good article - "Unearthing racism's Christian roots: How far-right Christianity quietly fueled Jacksonville shooter
[...]...Starting from the very beginning of European settlement, colonists used the Bible to claim Christian explorers had a divine right to seize lands that were not inhabited by Christians. They also argued that they had a godly duty to bring the Bible to native lands. These "Biblical" missions left fields of blood and fire behind them.
Then, as colonists took over the South, Christianity became a lynchpin of slavery. Faith leaders and policymakers professed that the Bible contained passages that clearly supported enslavement.[/b]"

To link a few

A message to all who see Christian vales under threat by naughty Democrats and others who support inclusivity of groups who have, for different reasons, been persecuted for a period longer than any of us have lived. Putin feels as you do. See excerpt from a post of December, 2022:
Vladimir Putin: a miracle defender of Christianity or the most evil man?
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Is Tim Costello Australia’s most misunderstood Christian?
[...][...]For his Sydney audience, Tim Costello described the St Kilda he started ministry in as, “a giant sinkhole for abandoned kids and street people.” He had taken the “wrong” church, a red brick building in a depressing side street that the powers-that-be had decided to close. But as he observed, “I would have shrivelled up inside as a pastor in Melbourne’s Bible belt”. In St Kilda he was able to grow.
P - But there were lessons to learn from the people, such as Eva, a member of the Stolen Generations.
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EVANGELICALS HAVE BEEN RESHAPED INTO THE IMAGE OF TRUMP HIMSELF
By Michael Gerson Oct. 28, 2019 at 5:25 p.m. EDT
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If Trump survives the impeachment process, and somehow wins a second term, many explanations will be offered. It may be that the Democratic Party went too far left, or picked a nominee with a glass jaw, or couldn’t swim against the political tide of a good economy. But there will be one reason behind all of these reasons: because evangelicals lost their taste for character and gave their blessing to corruption. And this grand act of hypocrisy would mark them for a generation.
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To link - Faith and freedoms: why evangelicals profess unwavering love for Trump
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Evangelicals feel Trump has kept his covenant with them by nominating conservative judges to federal courts and to the supreme court; by tacitly supporting abortion bans; by supporting Christian universities and organizations that profess a moral objection to same-sex marriage or contraception; by supporting religious dispensations from anti-discrimination laws; by moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and other measures.
P - Meanwhile, Trump has addressed a central concern for white evangelicals that they are losing influence as a group and that the sun is setting on the United States they dream of – a nation that is white and Christian in its majority and in its essence.
P - “They’ll look away from the moral indiscretion in order to get their political agenda in place...
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The apocalyptic myth that helps explain evangelical support for Trump
""Is this fascism? No. Could it become fascism? Yes
"Is Donald Trump a Fascist? Part 2 of Interview with Robert Paxton, Father of Fascism Studies
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“God’s used imperfect people all through history. King David wasn’t perfect. Saul wasn’t perfect. Solomon wasn’t perfect,” outgoing Energy Secretary Rick Perry said in an interview on “Fox & Friends” before going on to claim that he had given the president “a little one-pager on those Old Testament kings about a month ago.
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"While Biden is focused on Trump trials Israel gets pounded by Iran backed Hamas. How about getting the $6billion back Joey? Great foreign policy leader we have here literally asleep at the proverbial wheel. Ok go back to sleep Joe nothing to see here more of the same past 1,000 years I concur let them all kill each other off over there and eliminate our tax monies going to these blood thirsty nations, good thinking Joe. I am with you here."

The money given to Iran was theirs, you jerk. You have been told that before. Your conservatives have backed your crook
Netanyahu to the hilt. Your piling on Biden is laughable considering the fucking clear glass house you shrivel away in.

Let them kill each other you say, while dishonestly and disingenuously putting that thought into Biden's head.