Replies to post #450254 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[newmedman]

That's above my paygrade. I can only tell you what I've read from reputable sources. Both sides screwed the pooch and Hunter's fate is still in limbo while the GOP waits four some magical evidence beans to drop from the sky.

It's pathetic.

[blackhawks]

At first I thought how in TF you could possibly miss the point? The refences to GOP appointed people presiding over the case against Hunter is that it defuses, make look ridiculous, the entire bullshit argument about the weaponization of the justice system. Garland could have removed the Trump appointed Hunter investigator; he didn't.

Republicans couldn't find the evidence for stronger charges, much less a connection to the president; I guess the weapon misfired, backfired.

And then I remembered, getting the point is not the strong suit of any of you insufferably obtuse Trumpanzee trolls.

ForReal? ForShit.

All I hear is, He/She was a Trump appointed Judge. He/She is a Trump appointed AG. Inferring that all involved are biased toward some outcome favorable to Trump and/or Republicans.

[fuagf]

ForReal, This of yours is dishonest garbage "All I hear is, He/She was a Trump appointed Judge. He/She is a Trump appointed AG. Inferring that all involved are biased toward some outcome favorable to Trump and/or Republicans." from you.

It has been perfectly reasonable to state the appointment facts, and any inference you care to draw from the stating of the fact is wholly on you, Also, obviously you have been given much more than that so to say 'it's all you hear' is not true. Just as your claim to be "independent" was never true. Note:

DAVID WEISS IS WRECKING THE THE RIGHT WING STORY (AND LIKELY SANDBAGGING HUNTER BIDEN)
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It turns out, too, that for the contested year (the one Joseph Ziegler said was so damning), both sides agree that Hunter’s accountants overstated his income on his taxes, which makes it hard to argue that Hunter’s treatment of some personal expenses as business expenses was an intent to lie to the IRS.
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I can’t speak to whether any FARA charges against Hunter are meritorious or not and if they are, without taint, by all means prosecute him. The admitted facts about Burisma and CEFC, while far smaller than laid out by Republicans (including, potentially, by Joseph Ziegler and Gary Shapley under oath), are interesting as much for the kind of information operation we saw being alleged in the Gal Luft prosecution as they are for the possibility they support a FARA prosecution (which is one of two things — the other being the loan that Hunter got from Kevin Morris to pay off his taxes in the first place — for which the statute of limitations would not have expired).

But that’s as much an information operation as it is a FARA violation.

It’s my opinion that this plea deal was crafted to give DOJ a way out of grave problems that exist in their existing case file — problems that Ziegler described in testimony — while kicking off a FARA investigation with sworn admissions made based on, at best, misunderstandings — and possibly outright misrepresentations — of the scope of the deal.

It’s my opinion that this statement of facts was intended to get Hunter to admit under oath to facts underlying FARA violations that DOJ otherwise couldn’t use because the way they got this evidence has been so tainted by Trump’s political influence and hacked computers and other poisonous tree they’d never get it admitted in court.

DOJ already admitted — to Joseph Ziegler at least — that they couldn’t prosecute any of this because of some kind of taint. And it sure looks like this “plea deal” is an attempt to sheepdip the entire prosecution to get Hunter Biden to clean the taint himself.
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You said you read all of the witness testimony without giving any details to support any position. In the above you were given details which you have either not read or totally ignored. And in the above there is much more than she/he is a Trump appointee. Obviously most of your

"All I hear is, He/She was a Trump appointed Judge. He/She is a Trump appointed AG. Inferring that all involved are biased toward some outcome favorable to Trump and/or Republicans. I was just trying to point out that that would not be the case here and by the bias parameters as established by many (when convenient), Ziegler would not fit within those parameters. Actually, I could care less myself. But for others reading these posts, it should assure them, by there veracity standards, that Ziegler was honest and without political bias.
As for "blowing up the agreement", I hardly think that would be possible. But even if it was, would not the immunity agreement be blown up with the rest of the agreement? Seems logical to me."

is nothing but dishonest words. As for blowing up the plea agreement since the immunity agreement, i think, is part of it (i'm no expert either) then yep, that would go to.

If you were in Hunter's shoes knowing what you know about Trump coming after yourself to get at your father you would want any plea deal to stop Trump. If you could.