Replies to post #449870 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[zab]

Meanwhile President Biden will still be my choice in 2024, because he is the most qualified man for the job, and he keeps getting things done that help and keep America as the leader of the free world.

[blackhawks]

Please child, he did what was recommended RE Warp Speed while all the while 'downplaying' the pandemic, scoffing at mitigation measures, holding super spreader rallies, predicting early ends for the pandemic....Easter, summer, the election... and riffing on absurd & dangerous 'treatments'. And then he did not come out and endorse the Covid vaxxes for more than a full year after leaving office...and he was roundly booed by his audience of cretin followers.

And Trump started Operation Warp Speed that resulted in those vaccines,....

[fuagf]

conix, Experts and studies are divided on the justification for the covid lockdowns, yet you have certainty where expert studies fail.

Were lockdowns justified? A return to the facts and evidence

Philippe van Basshuysen, Lucie White

PMID: 34897118 DOI: 10.1353/ken.2021.0028

Abstract

Were governments justified in imposing lockdowns to contain the spread of the COVID-19 pandemic? We argue that a convincing answer to this question is to date wanting, by critically analyzing the factual basis of a recent paper, "How Government Leaders Violated Their Epistemic Duties During the SARS-CoV-2 Crisis" (Winsberg, Brennan, and Suprenant 2020). In their paper, Winsberg, Brennan, and Suprenant argue that government leaders did not, at the beginning of the pandemic, meet the epistemic requirements necessitated to impose lockdowns. We focus on Winsberg, Brennan, and Suprenant's contentions that knowledge about COVID-19 resultant projections were inadequate; that epidemiologists were biased in their estimates of relevant figures; that there was insufficient evidence supporting the efficacy of lockdowns; and that lockdowns cause more harm than good. We argue that none of these claims are sufficiently supported by evidence, thus impairing their case against lockdowns, and leaving open the question of whether lockdowns were justified.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34897118/

And we will never even get a relatively unbiased opinion from you on anything

In fact, the first vaccine out for covid had nothing to do with Warp Speed ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174243745 , plus
Trump had very little to do with Warp Speed itself ..
hap0206, Yeah, too many voters give Trump credit for things he had little if any real input in. You have been told before:
[...]'stock_observer_77, Obama's contribution to rapid vaccine development highlighted in hearing
[...]How the ‘deep state’ scientists vilified by Trump helped him deliver an unprecedented achievement
[...]“I do think the urgency for Operation Warp Speed was heightened by the fact that we were in the middle of an election year,” said Daniel Carpenter, a political scientist at Harvard University. “On the whole, it was a good thing — it led a potentially anti-science, anti-vaccine administration to push harder for a vaccine. What we will end up seeing in the long run is this is an unparalleled private and public sector mobilization that happened.”
P - That mobilization, which is pushing out the first 2.9 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine this week, is a testament to the power of science, and also to a global collaboration involving drug companies and government coordinated by political appointees and civil servants across the government — players and a process that Trump has at times disparaged.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175655034 . "You seem to forget that."

And you ignore, deliberately for sure. that Trump now has cut the US defense against infectious disease to relative shreds now ..

Trump, as COVID now H5N1 -19AI Overview Learn more
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=176196912

Yet again you give Trump much more credit than he deserves, plus you defend the guy now who is reaping damage to American institutions.