Silvr, speaking of testosterone, I was looking at AbbVie's board on Cafepharma , and normally I take much of what is posted with a grain of a salt, but I found it interesting as posters were complaining about AbbVie's lack of R&D. They posted that internally AbbVie has been telling their employees that hey have a plan to combat Humira LOE for the last 10 years. Allergan obviously was not the original Plan as they tried to acquire Shire before that. They believe the existing plan won't cut it. Started about the same time they hired Dr Snabes. If this is the case, there is internal pressure building for them to come out publicly.