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[newmedman]

I don't disagree with you about Durham and Barr but I tend to take a little offense with your comment that surely needs to be reworded in my world.

I don't mind any kind of vulva, just not on a mans face.

Anytime a vulva is on my face, I consider it a very successful day/night :-)

[fuagf]

Trump claimed Mueller's inquiry was a witch hunt. Barr, siding with Trump, suspected it may have been one. Driven by a desire to find evidence against law enforcement and/or intelligence agencies to give support to Trump's deep state witch hunt allegation Barr hired Durham to investigate Mueller's work. Sept. 2019 Barr and Durham make a surprise trip to Italy. The trip was both a surprise and surprising to all but Barr and Durham.

The trip to Italy generated criticism that Mr. Barr was doing the president’s bidding and micromanaging a supposedly independent investigation. And one of Mr. Trump’s efforts to support the review, a phone call .. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/25/us/politics/trump-ukraine-transcript.html?module=inline .. with Ukraine’s leader, has prompted a whistle-blower complaint .. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html?module=inline .. and a formal impeachment inquiry .. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/24/us/politics/democrats-impeachment-trump.html?module=inline .. into whether the president hijacked American diplomacy for political gain.
P - Mr. Barr has portrayed the review .. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/us/politics/barr-trump-campaign-spying.html?module=inline .. as an attempt to ferret out any abuse of power by law enforcement or intelligence officials. But it is also a politically charged effort that takes aim at the conclusions drawn by the American law enforcement and intelligence communities after years of painstaking work investigating Russia’s 2016 election interference. .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=152133598

Durham, in defiance of a judge's decisions, even resorted to Russian intelligence memos looking for dirt to support Trump's witch hunt allegation.

* Mr. Durham used Russian intelligence memos — suspected by other U.S. officials of containing disinformation — to gain access to emails of an aide to George Soros, the financier and philanthropist who is a favorite target of the American right and Russian state media. Mr. Durham used grand jury powers to keep pursuing the emails even after a judge twice rejected his request for access to them. The emails yielded no evidence that Mr. Durham has cited in any case he pursued. .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171073224

Trump repeatedly claimed Mueller had found no collusion whereas in fact Mueller found much collusion between Russians and Trump's campaign. Mueller found Putin had tried to help Trump win, and that his campaign hoped to be helped by foreign interests.

Barr pressured NSA to cooperate with Durham or he would be hard on them ..
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-aud-nw-nyt-barr-durham-russia-investigation-20230126-uw7fl7ftabcuxanbhu3qoab33a-story.html .

In December 2019 both Barr and Durham slammed the Horowitz report:

Horowitz Report Undermines Barr’s Conspiracy Theories
It is the attorney general that has launched a witch hunt with zero evidence.
by Nancy LeTourneau December 10, 2019
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/12/10/horowitz-report-undermines-barrs-conspiracy-theories/

After four years of a Barr-Durham witch hunt against the Mueller Russian investigation and against United
States intelligence and law enforcement agencies Barr waited until after the 2020 election to make his report:

Barr says he hasn’t seen fraud that could affect the election outcome
By Matt Zapotosky, Devlin Barrett and Josh Dawsey
December 1, 2020 at 7:58 p.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-no-evidence-election-fraud/2020/12/01/5f4dcaa8-340a-11eb-8d38-6aea1adb3839_story.html

To your "Why is durham still with the doj?" to the bottom of one of the articled linked above:

Late in the summer of 2021, Mr. Durham prepared to indict Michael Sussmann, a cybersecurity lawyer who had represented Democrats in their dealings with the F.B.I. about Russia’s hacking of their emails. Two prosecutors on Mr. Durham’s team — Anthony Scarpelli and Neeraj N. Patel — objected, according to people familiar with the matter.

Five years earlier, Mr. Sussmann had relayed a tip to the bureau about odd internet data that a group of data scientists contended could reflect hidden communications between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank of Russia. The F.B.I., which by then had already launched its Russia investigation, briefly looked at the allegation but dismissed it.

Mr. Durham accused Mr. Sussmann of lying .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/us/politics/michael-sussmann-trial-trump-russia.html .. to an F.B.I. official by saying he was not conveying the tip for a client; the prosecutor maintained Mr. Sussmann was there in part for the Clinton campaign.

Mr. Scarpelli and Mr. Patel argued to Mr. Durham that the evidence was too thin to charge Mr. Sussmann and that such a case would not normally be prosecuted, people familiar with the matter said. Given the intense scrutiny it would receive, they also warned that an acquittal would undermine public faith in their investigation and federal law enforcement.

When Mr. Durham did not change course, Mr. Scarpelli quit in protest, people familiar with the matter said. Mr. Patel left soon after to take a different job. Both declined to comment.

The charge against Mr. Sussmann was narrow, but the Durham team used it to make public large amounts of information insinuating what Mr. Durham never charged: that Clinton campaign associates conspired to gin up an F.B.I. investigation into Mr. Trump based on a knowingly false allegation.

Trial testimony, however, showed that while Mrs. Clinton and her campaign manager hoped Mr. Sussmann would persuade reporters to write articles about Alfa Bank, they did not want him to take the information to the F.B.I. And prosecutors presented no evidence that he or campaign officials had believed the data scientists’ complex theory was false.

After Mr. Sussmann’s acquittal .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/31/us/politics/michael-sussmann-durham-fbi.html , Mr. Barr, by then out of office for more than a year, suggested that using the courts to advance a politically charged narrative was a goal in itself. Mr. Durham “accomplished something far more important” than a conviction, Mr. Barr told Fox News .. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/barr-says-durham-accomplished-something-far-more-important-than-sussmann-conviction , asserting that the case had “crystallized the central role played by the Hillary campaign in launching as a dirty trick the whole Russiagate collusion narrative and fanning the flames of it.”

And he predicted that a subsequent trial, concerning a Russia analyst who was a researcher for the Steele dossier, would also “get the story out” and “further amplify these themes and the role the F.B.I. leadership played in this, which is increasingly looking fishy and inexplicable.”


Mr. Durham’s prosecution of Igor Danchenko, a Russia analyst who was a researcher for the Steele dossier, ended in acquittal. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

That case involved Igor Danchenko, who had told the F.B.I. that the dossier exaggerated the credibility of gossip and speculation. Mr. Durham charged him with lying about two sources. He was acquitted .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/18/us/politics/igor-danchenko-russia-acquittal-trump.html , too.

The two failed cases are likely to be Mr. Durham’s last courtroom acts as a prosecutor. Bringing demonstrably weak cases stood in contrast to how he once talked about his prosecutorial philosophy.

James Farmer, a retired prosecutor who worked with Mr. Durham on several major investigations, recalled him as a neutral actor who said that if there were nothing to charge, they would not strain to prosecute. “That’s what I heard, time and again,” Mr. Farmer said.

Delivering the closing arguments in the Danchenko trial, Mr. Durham defended his investigation to the jury, denying that his appointment by Mr. Barr had been tainted by politics.

He asserted that Mr. Mueller had concluded “there’s no evidence of collusion here or conspiracy” — a formulation that echoed Mr. Trump ..

OK, so after two years of hard work and each party trying their best to make the other party look as bad as possible, it’s time to get back to business. The Mueller Report strongly stated that there was No Collusion with Russia (of course) and, in fact, they were rebuffed.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 3, 2019

’s distortion of the Russia investigation’s complex findings — and added: “Is it the wrong question to ask, well, then how did this get started? Respectfully, that’s not the case.”

The judge interrupted him: “You should finish up, Mr. Durham.”
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On reading yours i felt i needed to review it all, and hope others may benefit from the above effort too. It's all in that last linked NYT article.