HHS agree.. listened to the cc, nothing special .. or as expected given the quarter. Basically they say they are getting hit by a worsening economy, particularly in their fin svcs segment, their acquisition (forgot the name) is performing well.. contributed $500,000 of ebitda this qtr, they expect sequential ebitda and rev growth next quarter, and I think they said they expect overall growth going forward generally, but on the other hand they say they don't see a lot of visibility (I was not paying 100% attention at all times to the call). They are taking out more costs (and we will see