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[sortagreen]

I kind of hope this comes true.

and then ominously declared that “Florida will not assist in an extradition request” for Trump.

I think US Marshalls dragging that fat orange cocksucker out of Mar a Lardo kicking and screaming, will make a great ringtone.

[fuagf]

Every single American voter who still supports Trump has a questionable understanding, if any, of this:

"To fully understand the Trumpist threat to the rule of law, it’s necessary to discuss what the rule of law means. A nation truly governed by the rule of law isn’t going to have a perfect legal system — no human system can be perfect — but it will have a double check against injustice. The rule of law depends on both substance and process, just laws and just processes, and respect for the rule of law depends on peacefully complying with the legal process even when you’re utterly convinced the underlying legal charge is wrong."

Every one who still supports that cretin who spits on the rule of law spits on it with him.

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Donald Trump vows to lock up political enemies if he returns to White House

"The Rule of Law Now Depends on Republicans
[...]“Probably not the best time to give up your AR-15. And I think most people know that.” With those words, spoken the night The New York Times broke the news that a Manhattan grand jury indicted Donald Trump, the Fox News host Tucker Carlson signaled the next, dangerous phase of the Trumpist assault on the rule of law. We began to watch a replay of the circumstances that led to the violent assault on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
P - It continued. The former Fox News host Glenn Beck told Carlson that he predicted that by 2025 America would be “at war,” “we’ll have a currency collapse, and we will live in a virtual police state.” The Bill of Rights is “gone,” Beck said.
P - Vivek Ramaswamy, a Republican businessman and presidential candidate, put out a video statement saying that America is “skating on thin ice as a country right now” and that “we may be heading on our way to a national divorce.”
P - Perhaps the most disturbing reaction came from Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who is polling second to Trump in primary polls. Just after the indictment news broke (and without seeing the charges), he tweeted that the indictment was “un-American” and then ominously declared that “Florida will not assist in an extradition request” for Trump."

Related: 123 Alex Jones Lies
[...]1. Glenn Beck
The revival of concentration camps in the United States is the tune Glenn Beck just can’t stop singing. He was most recently at it this past week .. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/glenn-beck-warns-obama-about-snap-will-start-putting-conservatives-internment-camps , when he warned that President Barack Obama is about to snap from the pressures of his allegedly failing presidency and start rounding people up.
2015 -- https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=114206263

There is one eight year-old example of how too many extreme-radical-right wing American conservatives project. Eight years ago many of them expressed their internal feelings out loud about what they would most like to do to their most troublesome political enemies. No talk of a crime committed. If Donald Trump wins in 2024 (by hook or by crook) in 2025, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck and all the other extreme right-winger-whingers in America, could finally have that wet dream of theirs come true.]

Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’

Martin Pengelly in Washington
@MartinPengelly
Thu 31 Aug 2023 01.55 AEST
Last modified on Thu 31 Aug 2023 02.19 AEST


Donald Trump promised to lock up his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail in 2016 but did not carry out the threat while in office. Photograph: Carlos Barría/Reuters

Donald Trump says he will lock up his political enemies if he is president again.

In an interview on Tuesday .. https://www.mediaite.com/politics/you-have-no-choice-trump-tells-glenn-beck-he-will-absolutely-lock-people-up-if-returned-to-white-house/ , the rightwing broadcaster Glenn Beck raised Trump’s famous campaign-trail vow to “lock up” Hillary Clinton, his opponent in 2016, a promise Trump did not fulfill in office.

Hillary Clinton feels ‘profound sadness’ over Trump’s many indictments
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/15/hillary-clinton-feels-profound-sadness-over-trumps-many-indictments

Beck said: “Do you regret not locking [Clinton] up? And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?”

Trump said: “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us.”

Trump has encouraged .. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/18/gretchen-whitmer-donald-trump-rally-lock-her-up-michigan .. the “lock her up” chant against other opponents but he remains in considerable danger of being locked up himself.

Under four indictments, he faces 91 criminal charges related to election subversion, retention of classified information and hush-money payments to a adult film star. He denies wrongdoing and claims to be the victim of political persecution. Trials are scheduled next year.

Earlier this month, Politico calculated .. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/02/trump-prison-sentence-risk-00109544#:~:text=If%20Trump%20were%20convicted%20on,whopping%20641%20years%20in%20prison. .. that Trump faced a maximum of 641 years in jail. After the addition of 13 racketeering and conspiracy charges in Georgia, Forbes upped .. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/08/16/trumps-total-charges-could-result-in-more-than-700-years-in-prison/?sh=62712074e963 .. the total to more than 717 years.

[Insert: Since Trump actually believes he is biblical
.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah ,
he could use that sentence to get a grip.]

Trump is 77.

Both sites noted, however, that if convicted, the former president was unlikely to receive maximum sentences. Nor would convictions bar Trump from running for president or being elected. On that score, Trump dominates national and key state polling regarding the Republican presidential nomination.

In his Tuesday interview on BlazeTV .. https://www.blazetv.com/series/2sMktR4RBaoF-the-glenn-beck-radio-program?channel=series , Trump also said he “never hit Biden as hard as I could have” while in office.

Trump’s first impeachment concerned attempts to find dirt on rivals including Biden, related to politics and business in Ukraine. Now, in Congress, Trump’s Republican allies are threatening to impeach Biden over unsubstantiated allegations connected to his surviving son, Hunter.

Trump told Beck that Biden was behind the indictments against him. In fact, all were brought by prosecutors independent of the White House: 44 by the justice department special counsel Jack Smith, 34 by the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, and 13 by Fani Willis, the district attorney of Fulton county, Georgia.

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[ There is one obvious reason why Trump's smear tactics against American law and order should not work against Jack Smith.
Why Trump’s smear campaign tactics won't work (as well) on Jack Smith
It will be harder for Democrats and Republicans — and Trump — to use politics to undermine this special counsel's conclusions.

Jack Smith in The Hague in 2020.Jerry Lampen / AFP via Getty Images Pool file
June 9, 2023, 9:58 AM AEST / Updated June 9, 2023, 11:11 AM AEST
By Charlie Dent, former representative for Pennsylvania’s 15th congressional district.
[...]
As an unelected career prosecutor, Smith is not currently aligned with a political party. Trump can complain about witch hunts all he wants, but political bias is far harder to argue with Smith — at least with a straight face. And it should be harder for both Democrats and Republicans to use politics to undermine his conclusions.
P - Trump has also attacked Bragg, Willis and New York Attorney General Letitia James — who are all Black — as “racists” bent on destroying him. Such rhetoric is clearly out of bounds. He even called Bragg “an animal.” These smears are meant to intimidate the prosecutors, their staff and their families. (If Trump continues down this path of verbal retribution, he could find himself in more legal peril and be charged with intimidation. How long will judges allow these sorts of attacks to continue before intervening?)
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-indictment-special-counsel-jack-smith-tactics-rcna88036 ]
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Trump also claimed “the woman that I never met, that they accused me of rape, that’s being run by a Democrat, a Democrat operative, and paid for by the Democrat [sic] party”.

That was a reference to civil claims brought by E Jean Carroll, a writer who says Trump sexually assaulted her in New York in the 1990s. Earlier this year, Trump was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation and fined about $5m. A second trial is due next year. The judge in the case has said Trump has been adjudicated a rapist.

Also facing investigations of his business affairs, Trump said Democrats and other opponents were “sick people … evil people”.

The twice impeached, four times indicted, 91 times charged ex-president also told Beck he “always had such great respect for the office of the president and the presidency”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/30/trump-interview-jail-political-opponents-glenn-beck

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