lol bud I flipped etim, so don't got there, thats what i do,, no need for all the name callin is there? i just pointed out that there are people who will always see things different than you or me, i have no problem with you being in SMMW i hope it works,,, ( ANd yes I'm so far down with PDVP that i may have to take the mirrows off the walls so my kids don't see themselves straving to death} ...LOL