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03/24/23 6:29 AM

#439943 RE: fuagf #439934

"There may be a time when redress may not be obtained. Till then, I shall recommend a legal, orderly, and prudent resentment".[8]
Good catch up with your post thanks, a bit more elaboration if you want - just reading the history of Roxham road and looks like Americans were the first refugees!. [I'm wondering now to what extent Joe didn't come up here not just to talk serious business like a united reply to Russia and China but to take a break from the bickering down there, lol]:
Most Americans hoped for a peaceful reconciliation but were forced to choose sides by the Patriots who took control nearly everywhere in the Thirteen Colonies in 1775–76.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_(American_Revolution)
 
The Repugs will love this - guess where they settled?
Clinton County!,.. whaaahaha..
 
There had been scattered European settlement of the area through which Roxham Road runs by both British and French colonists throughout the 17th and 18th centuries, but the hamlet of Roxham only began to develop at the beginning of the 19th century with the emigration of American Loyalists who would not renounce their allegiance to the British crown after the Revolution ended in independence for the Thirteen Colonies
 
There's always something!, .. ;)
 
By 1838 the population along the road had grown enough that a small cemetery was established along it in the town of Champlain
 
By this time it was also, like other back roads crossing the border in the area, used by agents of the Underground Railroad to guide escaped enslaved Blacks to freedom—North Star Road, at the southern terminus of Roxham, is said to have gotten its name from the lore among escapees to look for Polaris in the night sky as a guide to which way was north.[40]

 
I once went for a couple beers late one afternoon
on xc skis thru the bush
in the dark (.. left later than planned.. her eyes were like O. Wilde's but bluer)
It's late so maybe I'll take this what looks like more direct route, snow was go-any-where firm
got lost for a while til i remembered seeing Orion's Belt and the pointy bit earlier in the day pointing back home - my compass.
a little weird crossing that river in the dark
women can kill.
[I don't see a belt I see an arrow, this photo shows the point (don't get lost!, try to keep up.. ;)]

 
. Canada barricaded all uncontrolled crossings on its side as part of security operations supporting the 1976 Summer Olympics, fearful that terrorists like those who had killed Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics could do something similar in Montreal, where the Games were held, and then quickly escape across the border.[4][44][45] During the 1980s, when illegal migration primarily took place from Canada into the U.S.,[46] the Border Patrol augmented this with electronic surveillance equipment.[47]

 
Safe Third Country Agreement
 
[i]After the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Canada and the U.S. worked together to improve border security. Among many agreements signed was the Safe Third Country Agreement, (CUSTCA, more commonly just STCA) stipulating that refugees coming to either country must apply for asylum in the first one they reach. It was generally seen at the time it was signed in 2002 as being sought primarily by Canada, to prevent refugees from "asylum-shopping".[49][e] In 2004 it came into force and the amount of asylum applications to Canada began to drop;[53] three years later a Canadian Federal Court ruled the treaty unconstitutional, on the basis that U.S. law did not offer the same protections as Canada for applicants, but that decision was in turn overturned by an appeals court on procedural grounds.[54]
 
Anyhow, lots of history there and I'll let you know if Joe decides he's not coming back..
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxham_Road
 
Immigration fuels Canada's largest population growth of over 1 million
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65047436
 
US and Canada reach deal to reject asylum seekers
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65047438
 
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fuagf

04/28/23 11:24 PM

#443713 RE: fuagf #439934

Hundreds stuck at Peru-Chile border in crackdown on migrants

"U.S. and Canada Reach an Agreement on Diverting Asylum Seekers
"The Situation at the U.S.-Mexico Border Can't Be 'Solved' Without Acknowledging Its Origins"
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A migration crisis at the border between Chile and Peru is intensifying, with hundreds of people
stranded, unable to cross into Peru in an effort to return to their home country of Venezuela

By The Associated Press
April 28, 2023, 8:05 AM



SANTIAGO, Chile -- A migration crisis at the border between Chile and Peru intensified Thursday as hundreds of people remained stranded, unable to cross into Peru in an effort to return to their home country of Venezuela.

The mostly Venezuelan migrants are seeking to cross into Peru to continue on to their home country but Peru isn’t allowing them to enter because they lack documents.

While stalled at the border of the two South American countries, the migrants face the inhospitable climate that characterizes the Atacama Desert, one of the driest on the planet, with extremely hot days and intensely cold nights. Some have improvised tents with blankets but they lack water and other basic services.

A group of migrants ran through the desert toward Peru, but they were turned back by Peruvian officers. Some women complained and demanded that the government of President Gabriel Boric provide a bus for them to travel to Venezuela.

Images showed migrants shoving Peruvian border patrol officers in an effort to enter the country.

Officials in Arica, the northern Chilean city that borders Peru and is around 2,000 kilometers (1,245 miles) from the capital of Santiago, declared a migration emergency Thursday.

A day earlier, the Peruvian president, Dina Boluarte, declared a state of emergency in Tacna, a town near the border with Chile, in order to “preserve domestic order” and contain the arrival of migrants. In announcing the measure, the president attributed “criminal acts” to migrants.

Boluarte said she would push for a constitutional reform to “authorize the intervention of the armed forces in the border area.” Boric, for his part, already deployed troops to the border in late February to help stop the entry of migrants.

Amnesty International urged Peru and Chile to end what it called “the militarization” of the border. Leaders on both sides are “needlessly aggravating the situation, turning it into a humanitarian crisis that increases the risk to the lives and safety of these people,” said Erika Guevara Rosas, director of Amnesty International for the Americas.

The Chilean government summoned Peruvian Ambassador Jaime Pomareda to express its displeasure over statements by Tacna Mayor Pascual Guisa, who called Chile's president “irresponsible” for what the envoy called an effort to transfer the country's migration woes to the border. Pomareda did not publicly comment on the meeting.

Arica’s mayor, Gerardo Espíndola, vowed to “provide resources” to support those in need, particularly children and the elderly.

“We will act as quickly as this critical situation affecting the people stranded at the border requires,” Espíndola said.

Amid the impasse, the head of Chile’s lower house of Congress, Vlado Mirosevic, called for a humanitarian corridor involving all the countries in the region to resolve the crisis and allow migrants safe passage back to Venezuela.

Chile’s foreign minister, Alberto van Klaveren, warned there was “a significant humanitarian problem in the area” and said Boluarte’s decision “increases pressure” at the border.

The departure of migrants from Chile comes shortly after the National Prosecutor’s Office on April 10 called on prosecutors to request preventive detention for anyone caught committing a crime who could not prove their identity.

In addition, a measure is set to be debated in the lower house of Congress that would classify irregular immigration .. https://abcnews.go.com/alerts/Immigration .. as a crime and proposes jail sentences of as many as 541 days for anyone caught entering Chile through unofficial channels.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/migration-crisis-hundreds-stranded-peru-chile-border-98921380