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"By what sane rational is it to give 41,000 hours of raw evidence and not other media." There isn't any.

Speaker McCarthy Gives Tucker Carlson 41,000 Hours Of Jan. 6 Footage

Derek Saul Forbes Staff
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Topline House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) handed over 41,000 hours of security tapes from the deadly January 6, 2021 Capitol riots to Fox News host Tucker Carlson, a network spokesperson confirmed to Forbes, as Carlson seeks to further his narrative severely downplaying the event.


Tucker Carlson has his hands on thousands of hours of security tapes from the Capitol riots.Getty Images

Key Facts

* Producers for Carlson are poring over the footage and plan to roll out selected clips over the next few weeks, sources close to McCarthy told Axios.

* A Fox News representative confirmed to Forbes the network had access to the tapes but declined to offer any further details beyond the Axios report, while McCarthy’s office didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

* Carlson claimed .. https://www.axios.com/2023/02/20/kevin-mccarthy-tucker-carlson-jan-6-riot-footage .. to Axios the newly released footage will “reveal..what actually happened on January 6,” hinting it will be the latest in a series of Carlson-produced media pushing .. https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/nov/05/tucker-carlsons-patriot-purge-film-jan-6-full-fals/ .. a distorted view of the insurrection, backing President Donald Trump’s false claims of election fraud.

* Several figures aligned with the far-right firebrand Carlson celebrated ..

For all of you that doubted we would release the tapes.

Here you go!

I’m very happy to be right again in my support for Kevin McCarthy as our Speaker.

Americans deserve to see the truth, not a one sided narrative and unfair two tiered justice system.https://t.co/EkVvbTwxcP

— Former Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@FmrRepMTG) February 20, 2023

,, the news on social media, such as Trump’s eldest son Donald Trump Jr., who called it “awesome,” and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who tweeted, “Here you go!”

[Insert: No concern at all for truth. Treasonous dicks.]

Key Background

At least five .. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/who-died-in-capitol-building-attack.html .. people died as a result of the insurrection. In a June 2022 column, Carlson characterized .. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-truth-happened-jan-6-unknown .. the riots as “an outbreak of mob violence, a forgettably minor outbreak by recent standards.” Carlson has repeatedly railed against .. https://www.wane.com/news/tucker-carlson-jan-6-panel-is-lying-and-we-are-not-going-to-help-them-do-it/ .. the House panel investigating the insurrection and lawmakers’ role in the events. McCarthy became .. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2023/01/07/kevin-mccarthy-elected-house-speaker-ending-historic-deadlock/?sh=488eecce39f5 .. Speaker of the House last month after a historic vote that took 15 rounds thanks to a group of ultra-conservative Republican legislators who took issue with McCarthy’s comparatively moderate views. Carlson actually backed the pushback against McCarthy, calling the dissent “refreshing” and blasting McCarthy for being “ideologically agnostic.”

[Now McCarthy is currying favor with Carlson. Political scumbags. Not because they
disagree with us, but because they push falsity. And manipulate people dishonestly.]

Surprising Fact

Carlson referred to election fraud claims pushed by Trump and his cronies as “absurd” and "insane” in texts revealed in court filings last week.

[See lies to his audience, truth in court. Scumbag hypocrisy.]

Further Reading

Trump Claims ‘Total Exoneration’ In Georgia Election Probe: Here’s Why That’s Not True—And He Could Still Be Indicted Soon (Forbes)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/02/17/trump-claims-total-exoneration-in-georgia-election-probe-heres-why-thats-not-true-and-he-could-still-be-indicted-soon/?sh=46fe74616055

‘Mind Blowingly Nuts’: Fox News Hosts And Execs Repeatedly Denounced 2020 Election Fraud Off-Air—Here Are Their Most Scathing Comments (Forbes)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/02/17/mind-blowingly-nuts-fox-news-hosts-and-execs-repeatedly-denounced-2020-election-fraud-off-air-here-are-their-most-scathing-comments/?sh=644e6d2618f3

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I'm a New Jersey-based Senior Reporter on our news desk. I graduated in 2021 from Duke University, where I majored in Economics and served as...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2023/02/20/speaker-mccarthy-gives-tucker-carlson-41000-hours-of-jan-6-footage/?sh=42ed60f03189

That's a tight little article Derek. Good stuff.

Love that fantasy. It's a funtastic continuing dream. You might suggest to your friends who question whether or not that makes you God, "Nope, God did a shitload of a lot of bad stuff. Anyway my dream is just imagination. Like God."

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McCarthyism and the Red Scare

"At some point doj has to step up and cancel fucker charlatan. For democracy sake."

Tucker Cockass being a member of the entertainment industry while posing as a newsman it's not easy to
muzzle him. SCOTUS saying lying to the public is ok makes it tough to keep idiots like Cockass honest.

[Insert: Ever wonder who used executive privilege to direct "administration officials and all executive
branch employees" to ignore congressional subpoenas, decades before Trump did the same. Read on. ]

In the end, President Eisenhower had no choice but to fight back against Senator Joseph McCarthy—and he did


Senator Joseph McCarthy

In the early 1950s, American leaders repeatedly told the public that they should be fearful of subversive Communist influence in their lives. Communists could be lurking anywhere, using their positions as school teachers, college professors, labor organizers, artists, or journalists to aid the program of world Communist domination. This paranoia about the internal Communist threat—what we call the Red Scare—reached a fever pitch between 1950 and 1954, when Senator Joe McCarthy of Wisconsin, a right-wing Republican, launched a series of highly publicized probes into alleged Communist penetration of the State Department, the White House, the Treasury, and even the US Army. During Eisenhower’s first two years in office, McCarthy’s shrieking denunciations and fear-mongering created a climate of fear and suspicion across the country. No one dared tangle with McCarthy for fear of being labeled disloyal.

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Any man who has been named by a either a senator or a committee or a congressman as dangerous to the welfare of this nation, his name should be submitted to the various intelligence units, and they should conduct a complete check upon him. It’s not too much to ask.
Senator Joseph McCarthy, 1953
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It has long been a subject of debate among historians: Why didn’t Eisenhower do more to confront McCarthy? Journalists, intellectuals, and even many of Eisenhower’s friends and close advisers agonized over what they saw as Ike’s timid approach to McCarthyism. Despite his popularity and his enormous political capital, they believed, Ike refused to engage directly with McCarthy. By avoiding the Red-hunting senator, some have argued, Eisenhower allowed McCarthyism to continue unchecked.


[A 1953 letter from President Eisenhower to his brother Milton]
In this letter to his brother Milton, Eisenhower explains, "As for McCarthy.
Only a short-sighted or completely inexperienced individual would
urge the use of the office of the presidency to give an
opponent the publicity he so avidly desires."

By contrast, later scholars working from the documentary record perceived a design in Eisenhower’s strategy with McCarthy. Ike adopted an “indirect approach.” Instead of going right at McCarthy, Eisenhower worked behind the scenes to undercut and stymie the senator and his attacks. The political scientist Fred Greenstein, for example, argued that Eisenhower’s handling of McCarthy provides evidence of a “hidden hand” approach to government. In this interpretation, Ike rode above the fray of politics while secretly pulling levers and using White House influence to obstruct McCarthy and his allies.

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President read my text with great irritation, slammed it back at me and said he
would not refer to McCarthy personally—‘I will not get in the gutter with that guy.’
C. D. Jackson, Eisenhower speechwriter, 1953
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[edited page of Eisenhower speech draft]
Late in his first presidential campaign, Eisenhower excised a defense
of General George C. Marshall from a speech he gave in
McCarthy's home state of Wisconsin. He addressed
the issue more abstractly, stating, "The right to
question a man's judgment carries with it
no automatic right to question his honor."

Looking at all the evidence, the clearest conclusion is that Eisenhower did not want to confront Joe McCarthy at all. And during 1953, he tried to avoid the whole issue, hoping the Senate would silence the explosive senator. McCarthy was a Republican, after all, and many fellow senators supported him. Ike needed to keep his party unified to pass bills in other areas; battling McCarthy would only stir up a civil war inside the GOP.

Furthermore, Eisenhower did not want to appear “soft” on the problem of internal subversion. There had, after all, been real spies who penetrated into the State Department, notably Alger Hiss.


Alger Hiss

And Communist agents had stolen classified secrets from the wartime Manhattan Project that built the atomic bomb. When Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were condemned to die in the electric chair as punishment for their theft of atomic secrets, Eisenhower did not for a moment consider granting them clemency. On June 19, 1953, they were both put to death.

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Eisenhower in 1953 improvised in dealing with McCarthy, at first trying to ignore him, then trying to outdo him in the Red-hunting business. Then he tried
to seduce him with promises of new legislation to destroy Communism
in America. None of these tactics worked.
‘The Age of Eisenhower,’ chapter 6
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[New York Times article on Joseph McCarthy]
The first two paragraphs of the March 13, 1954
New York Times story on McCarthy, Cohn,
and David Schine

But at the start of 1954, the picture changed. Joe McCarthy turned his investigatory resources on the US Army and on members of the administration itself. Eisenhower had no choice but to fight back. The first move the White House made was to try to discredit the men around McCarthy, notably the lawyer Roy Cohn, who was leading the investigation, and Cohn’s assistant David Schine, who had recently been drafted into the Army.

The Army compiled a damaging dossier of dirt on Cohn, showing that he used threats and intimidation to demand that Schine be given plum assignments and easy duty. The White House leaked this dossier to the press and Congress. McCarthy and Cohn now stood accused of abuse of power.

EMBEDDED VIDEO - A 2003 report from NBC News reviewed newly released documents related to the McCarthy hearings
https://www.facebook.com/nbcnightlynews/videos/10155526445323689/

Ike went one step further. In order to close down McCarthy’s reckless use of subpoenas to compel witnesses to testify before his committee, Eisenhower invoked executive privilege.


[Eisenhower memo to secretary of defense]
In this May 17, 1954 memo to the Secretary of Defense, Eisenhower
ordered, “You will instruct employees of your Department that in all
of their appearances before the Subcommittee of the Senate
Committee on Operations regarding the inquiry now before
it, they are not to testify to any such conversations or
communications or to produce any such documents
or reproductions. This principle must be
maintained regardless of who would
be benefitted by such disclosures.”

In May 1954, Ike simply said that administration officials and all executive branch employees would ignore any call from McCarthy to testify. Eisenhower explained his action, declaring that “it is essential to efficient and effective administration that employees of the executive branch be in a position to be completely candid in advising with each other on official matters,” without those conversations being subject to Congressional scrutiny.

It was a bold and daring move, and it worked. McCarthy, his credibility in tatters and now starved of witnesses, hit a brick wall—and his fellow senators turned against him. In early December 1954, the Senate passed a motion of condemnation, in a vote of 67 to 22. McCarthy was ruined—and within three years he was dead from alcohol abuse. The era of McCarthyism was over. Ike had helped bring it to a bitter end.


Senate Resolution 301 censured McCarthy for conduct that “tends to bring the Senate
into disrepute”

https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/educational-resources/age-of-eisenhower/mcarthyism-red-scare