asthmaed, What do you consider william2112..a long??? He might think he is at .002+, or whatever his average...but if this stock goes to .0005, what will he be saying then???..after he has lost 75%+...will he then have sympathy for the longs or say I made my choice.....????? I am being pragmatic, but loss of money has a way of turning people's perspective...and it has been evidenced here time and again....btw, that randomness thing works both ways ..good and bad...and ..I prefer to know which way that randomness is going...