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[DesertDrifter]

I have yet to see independents get much done for anyone but themselves. They helped elect trump, which alone is a disgrace. They tag onto others, sometimes for the dem initiatives, but just as likely to vote for wars. An amorphous group that blows in the wind with no predictable moral convictions and never taking responsibility for anything, just scurrying away when asked to participate, but always quick to criticize.

We are Americans so we are independent by nature, but that doesn't mean we are devoid of principles. Snipers have their utility in war, but in politics they are mostly tedious.

I guess that is sort of like what trolling them back would look like , if anyone ever bothered.

[B402]

PAUL BEGALA: You think? Yeah, well, and this is revealing a big secret. Don’t tell anybody that we Democrats have a lab. Two labs, actually, secret labs, one in Berkeley and one in Brooklyn, where we come up with ideas to completely piss off the working class. And it’s working wonderfully.

BILL MAHER: Labs, you say, actual labs…

PAUL BEGALA: And they all have PhDs right in pissing off the working class. Somehow, in my lifetime, the Democrats have gone from being the party of the factory floor to being the party faculty lounge...

Dems sold out the working class to the corps for pure profit since Clinton....Now look where we are at...Much of what you speak of is cake in return or just doing something that should have been done long ago in a responsible country.....Dems dropped the ball, kicked it and now are just trying to find it, only because things are getting a bit out of hand.....And it may just be to late when you look at history..

The irony of this coming from the Democratic Underground is beyond my ability to express..Dems Joined big business instead of fighting....
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