Replies to post #431719 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[blackhawks]

Aw shit, yet MORE projection from you? What could be more bigoted, more amoral ends justify the means, 'but I liked his policies', than supporting the most openly bigoted president since, I dunno, Woodrow Wilson?

[fuagf]

conix, Maybe you should not claim knowledge about a subject when your primary source for posts on the topic is the NYPost. And, if that's
not revealing enough about your interest in the topic you have ignored virtually every post to you questing your positions. For example:

conix, New Book “Irreversible Damage” Is Full of Misinformation
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Within medicine, gender-affirming care for transgender and gender diverse youth is not controversial, outside of a few fringe groups like The American College of Pediatricians .. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/political-minds/201705/the-american-college-pediatricians-is-anti-lgbt-group .. (an anti-LGBTQ group that is not to be confused with The American Academy of Pediatrics). There is broad consensus from The American Psychiatric Association .. https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Library/About-APA/Organization-Documents-Policies/Policies/Position-Transgender-Gender-Diverse-Youth.pdf , The American Academy of Pediatrics .. https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/142/4/e20182162 , The Endocrine Society .. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558 , The American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry .. https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Latest_News/AACAP_Statement_Responding_to_Efforts-to_ban_Evidence-Based_Care_for_Transgender_and_Gender_Diverse.aspx , and The World Professional Association for Transgender Health .. https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc .. that gender-affirming medical care is appropriate for transgender youth so long as clinicians follow guidelines set forth by these major medical organizations (e.g., The Endocrine Society Guidelines .. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558 ). As one can read in the guidelines, recommended interventions depend on the developmental stage of a person, and a young person must meet specific criteria to be eligible for treatment. I wrote about this careful stepwise approach for The New York Times .. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/08/opinion/sunday/hannah-is-a-girl-doctors-finally-treat-her-like-one.html .. a few years ago.

Much of the attention Irreversible Damage has received is due to Shrier’s talent for stirring controversy. - [Hence her whine which you posted?] - After the book was briefly removed from Target’s website due to (reasonable) accusations of transphobia, Shrier used the moment to claim a supposed infringement of her freedom of speech. She wrote about it in The Wall Street Journal. It didn't matter that the first amendment doesn't mean you can force Target to sell your book; emotions had been rattled, and the book received a flurry of attention. This concerns me.

Transgender youth are commonly harassed and experience stigma in their communities, which has led to substantial mental health disparities .. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29071722/ , including high rates of suicide. Recently, radical social conservatives have been trying to take away their medical care by threatening to put parents and doctors in prison .. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/opinion/transgender-children-medical-bills.html .. if they follow standard-of-care medical practices to support these adolescents. This book adds fuel to that fire. But even scarier is that it tells parents to reject their children's gender identity, which is one of the greatest predictors of suicide attempts among transgender kids.

OOPS.

Transgender youth deserve better than mass consumption of misinformation about them. Here are some things you should know about Irreversible Damage.

Shrier did not interview most of the transgender adolescents she wrote about.

Shrier's book tells the stories of several young people who came out as transgender to their parents. The book claims that these adolescents and young adults were not actually transgender, but actually just confused. The problem is Shrier didn't actually interview any of these people she wrote about.

The author’s note points out that she only interviewed their parents, who uniformly did not accept their children’s transgender identities. Many of them were estranged from their kids because the children were so hurt by their parents' rejection. To actually understand the psychology of these young people, one would need to talk to them, not simply rely on stories from parents with whom they do not speak.

To make things worse, the author's note explains that Shrier changed details in the book to ensure the transgender people she wrote about would not be able to recognize themselves. In doing so, she ensured they could not provide their side of the story or point out any inaccuracies in her reporting.

OUCH!

The author claims she is apolitical, but the book was published by Regnery Publishing, a publisher whose mission is advancing politically conservative viewpoints.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=164536937

In promoting yourself as an expert in the area when you haven't exhibited any expertise in it at all, while at the same time telling another to stay out of the conversation, you are putting your unabashed arrogance on display. Yet again.

[brooklyn13]

Wow, that one guy is certainly a legit sample size. Nice research, that certainly proves that it wasn't good for one person!

How does that compare to, say, how many people say that cigarette smoking destroyed their lives? Or gun violence.

[sortagreen]

I dunno, Karen. Maybe you should take your considerable personal issues off board, or maybe go smell up some other room.

Your obsessions are sometimes disturbing, and mostly pathetic.

And your throwing around of the word "bigot", is evocative of "CRT", which now means pretty much anything you say it does.