Replies to post #430655 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[12yearplan]

Coni, that's a bit heavy handed - rarely does one size fit all which is where I come close to agreeing with you. One size doesn't fit all except when gov'ts attempt to charter rights and freedoms. Say, like for human rights. [Already a universal declaration on that so not hard to copy and paste] Bill Maher made a point there and thanks and where I fixed it for you:

And, cuz I was on that channel found another good one asking another one of those questions that are nuanced and will never have a simple solution. Such is life in the human realm. Have you thought of going Cyborg?. You will still have the problem of who you get to help programme. Looks like Trump might have to look into it if Bill's analysis is close:

[12yearplan]

Forgot some links

How We Reason About Human Nature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IKYgvw5vmc&t=4s&ab_channel=Skeptic

[blackhawks]

Does anyone lose their shit over misstatements of fact as much as you?

Teaching developing children that they can choose their gender without knowledge of their parents is not ok. And, it's not happening.

Destroying the nuclear family is not ok. Divorce is the biggest disrupter of nuclear families, and guess what?*

Confusing kids when they are already confused about changes in their body is not ok.

How do you propose then to unconfuse the confused kids?


https://mtlawoffice.com/news/divorce-rates-red-states-vs-blue-states

*If someone were to ask you whether the divorce rate is higher in traditionally “red” states or traditionally “blue” states, what would you say? My initial thought was that the divorce rate would be higher in blue states, which generally have more liberal views on marriage and divorce. According to a recent study, I’m wrong. “Red” States Have Higher Divorce Rates Than “Blue” States, And Here’s Why, huffingtonpost.com, January 21, 2014.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/divorce-study_n_4639430?utm_hp_ref=divorce&ir=Divorce

A new study titled “Red States, Blue States, and Divorce: Understanding the Impact of Conservative Protestantism on Regional Variation in Divorce Rates,” found that divorce rates were higher in religious states, but lower in liberal states.

The study found that, rather than safeguarding marriages by discouraging divorce, “the conservative religious culture is in fact a major contributing factor thanks to ‘the social institutions they create’ that ‘decrease marital stability.’”

This culture of pressuring young people to marry early and frowning upon cohabitation and sexual relations before marriage results in less solid marriages from the outset. A greater incidence of unhappy marriages translates into a higher rate of divorce.

[SoxFan]

once again I ask at what age would be appropriate for gender instruction?

[fuagf]

conix, We know your opinion on it. Giving it in a different slant than maybe you have before

"Gender instruction to children is NOT OK! End of story. Teaching developing children that they can choose their gender without knowledge of their parents is not ok. Destroying the nuclear family is not ok. Confusing kids when they are already confused about changes in their body is not ok.
P - And if you are not ok with this opinion...
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isn't going to make you any more correct. And in case you haven't noticed your chart doesn't tell anyone anything. In fact it doesn't exist here yet. Don't imagine it would be worth much anyway. You certainly need to provide a decent link confirming what you say is happening actually is. And it would have to be something like a link to a syllabus. Not an example of some rogue activist saying what you have said is actually happening. And see bottom for a bit more on parents.

Here is some of the junk you people are foisting on the innocent public:

Fact Check-Posts falsely claim five-year-olds can take sex-changing hormones By Reuters Fact Check
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-children-hormones-idUSL1N2LE1UZ

Back to your comment which no one here should ever take at face-value. For one how old are the children you are talking about. For two is what you say is happening part of a syllabus. And where. For three where and by whom is what you say being taught.

Finally here, personally i would accept very easily there could be cases in which it could be seen by experts to be in the best interest for a gender change to be made without parental permission. There are some very nasty parents out there. Some very ignorant parents. Some very unsympathetic parents. Some very unempathetic parents.

There are parents who only want one thing from their kids, that is that they grow up in their own image. You know - bashing homosexuals in dark alleyways. There are those parents, eh.

In other words your generalized assumption that all parents are worthy of controlling their child in all circumstances is the kind of ill-considered nonsense we often get from you.