Good stuff and thanks. I'm slowly getting a better sense of the guy and the controversy. Your contribution was helpful as JP responded to some of those detractions. That was a fun (brief video) interview with Justin Tobin with the "heated" exchange and "gotcha" moment and of mutual respect. It was in the link you supplied. The Vox opinion piece came across to me as an endorsement of JP's ideas (maybe not the lobster biology, lol ;). Like one of those youtube "reviews" of some product with a headline of scam or fraud which turn out to be an advertisement for same. A drive by that wasn't. For example the writer gave unqualified support for JP's academic credentials. When it came to criticism (let's use the example this board would be interested in) and like the misrepresenting title of the so called hit piece - JP I'm sure (like I would) would not see accountability if young men were empowered by something he/I said. Especially in light of being on record of espousing do least harm, self fulfillment, etc,.. . I think the only problem here is that many so called conservative or right wing values are also human values. People twist things. As discussed, "social" is now a dirty word. Fuck them twisters to their agenda driven damnation, lolz.. . JP would be quick to say he's not a Right Wing Nut. Or, like a buddy of mine likes to say on those occasions "don't tell me what to do"!, lolz.. .