Big effort thanks. LOL i set a limit and break it with glee. Left my Visa at home lots, but use it for shopping and drop into the pub on the way home. Lately, for 3-4 hours, in and out. In to have only $5 or 10, out to chat, do the word game or crossword, or just read. Then 15min. later back in again for another few dollars. Nothing like the levels newmedman has just mentioned, but it's all relative. And it's been most every day lately. Enough to wipe out my savings of about two years. I'd be up say $100 or so, and saying to whomever, "no way i'm blowing this." Then on the way home, bit of beer in the last glass, one last visit . Bang. Thing is most every day lately. All discipline out the window. Heh, am pretty sure because i had the Nov. deal coming up i''ve let loose even a bit more. Soooo, Nov. 1 a rejig. YAY!