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BOREALIS

07/22/22 7:23 AM

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THE TRUMP LEGACY







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hookrider

07/22/22 8:29 AM

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BOREALIS: "Kinzinger said the committee would urge changes to laws and policies intended to head off future attempts to overturn election results. A bipartisan Senate group this week introduced new legislation that would make clear that the vice president does not have the authority to throw out election results."

What good would it do. If the Fucking republicans get back in power, they will throw it out and write new rules allowing them to do what the hell they want!!!
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07/22/22 8:53 PM

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Merrick Garland's former law professor says he thinks the attorney general will indict Trump over January 6

"Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol riot hearings lay blame at Trump's feet"

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Related: Cassidy Hutchinson’s Testimony Changed Our Minds About Indicting Donald Trump
https://www.lawfareblog.com/cassidy-hutchinsons-testimony-changed-our-minds-about-indicting-donald-trump
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So the question is whether a prosecution of Trump would serve a substantial federal interest and whether there exist adequate alternatives to prosecution.
P - We think the answers to these questions are yes and no. Beside the general interest in enforcing federal criminal law, a prosecution of Trump would accomplish three important purposes. First, it would send a clear message that no one, not even the president, is above the law. This, unfortunately, is not a fringe position. From former President Richard Nixon’s statement .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/23/trump-falsely-tells-auditorium-full-teens-constitution-gives-him-right-do-whatever-i-want/ .. that “[w]hen the president does it … that means that it is not illegal,” to Trump’s claim .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/23/trump-falsely-tells-auditorium-full-teens-constitution-gives-him-right-do-whatever-i-want/ .. that “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president,” the poisonous idea of an extralegal president has posed an increasing threat to American democracy. A criminal prosecution would go a long way toward countering that threat.
P - Second, a prosecution would deter future presidents, and their enablers, from engaging in the sort of extreme, anti-democratic conduct that Trump embraced. Of course, deterrence can go too far, and it is a legitimate concern to worry about creating an overly cautious and risk-averse executive. But just because a prosecution would have chilling effects doesn’t mean that all chilling effects are bad. We want future presidents to err well on the side of respecting the democratic process: extra caution is no bad thing.
P - Finally, and perhaps most controversially, a prosecution could serve criminal law’s goal of incapacitating criminals. We do not take a position on whether prosecution would necessarily mean incarceration, and one of us has previously argued against putting Trump in prison .. https://shugerblogcom.wordpress.com/2018/02/08/justice-without-jail/ . A criminal penalty could be limited to a large fine. It could be used by Congress as the basis for impeachment and Senate disqualification or disqualification by Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. However, we also think it is important to recognize some of the benefits of equality before the law.... https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169322953

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Kelsey Vlamis
Jul 3, 2022, 11:39 IST


Attorney General Merrick Garland (left) and former President Donald Trump (right).
\Sean Rayford/Alex Wong/Getty Images

* A Harvard Law professor said he thinks Trump will be indicted by the Justice Department.

* Laurence Tribe is the former professor of US Attorney General Merrick Garland.


Laurence Tribe, a professor at Harvard Law School who taught Attorney General Merrick Garland, believes his former student will indict former President Donald Trump over the January 6 insurrection.

Tribe made the prediction during an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer days after explosive testimony was delivered during the House Select Committee's latest January 6 hearing.

Blitzer asked if, given the latest revelations and developments, Tribe thought the US Justice Department would indict Trump.

"Well, I wish I knew, but Merrick Garland is a friend and a former student of mine. He's an honest man," Tribe began. "He said he'd go to the top if that's where the evidence points and that's certainly where it's pointing now."

Tribe said some recent searches by federal agents, including the seizure of former Trump lawyer John Eastman's phone .. https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-agents-fbi-seize-phone-eastman-january-6-2022-6?_ga=2.109167810.618350823.1658529492-934315576.1658529492 , provide "strong evidence that the Justice Department is not stopping with the foot soldiers. It's going to the generals, and the biggest general of all of course is Donald Trump."

"I do think the odds are he will be indicted," Tribe said. After Blitzer pressed him on whether or not he thought Garland would bring the indictment against Trump, Tribe reiterated: "If I had to guess, that would be my guess."

The January 6 committee has said it has enough evidence to ask the Justice Department to indict Trump .. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-janaury-6-capitol-riot-2020-election-indictment-justice-department-2022-6?_ga=2.10807411.618350823.1658529492-934315576.1658529492 .

Insider's Camila DeChalus .. https://www.businessinsider.com/jan-6-panel-trump-broke-laws-riot-2020-election-lost-2022-6?_ga=2.10807411.618350823.1658529492-934315576.1658529492 .. reported that the committee is likely gathering evidence to accuse Trump of charges that include conspiracy to defraud the government, obstructing an official proceeding, wire fraud, and witness tampering.

But experts said Trump could mount a strong legal defense.

Tribe said if he were indicting Trump would be worried about the possibility of a hung jury due to a person being on it who believes Trump can "do no wrong." He said he would also be worried about the potential unrest an indictment could cause.
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"I certainly recognize that indicting a former president would generate lots of social heat, perhaps violence," he said. "But not indicting him would invite another violent insurrection."

https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/merrick-garlands-former-law-professor-says-he-thinks-the-attorney-general-will-indict-trump-over-january-6/articleshow/92629894.cms