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06/19/22 11:21 PM

#417246 RE: blackhawks #417231

Heh. Though all the names i recognize, the person behind them has faded in time.
So good ol' google to the rescue here, more often than many others of you, i'd bet.

"If J.S. Mill were alive today and lf he landed on this board?
Updating hs vernacular to American 21st century English.
Oh man, I'm lovin these collisions of truth with error.
The resultant clearer perception and livelier impression of truth is even better than
that from the weed given to me by the guy who sold the computer to me! Far out!!
I'm puzzled though. How come so few people exchange error for truth here?
"

John Stuart Mill
First published Thu Aug 25, 2016
[Editor’s Note: This new entry by Christopher Macleod replaces the old entry on this topic by the previous author.]

John Stuart Mill (1806–73) was the most influential English language philosopher of the nineteenth century. He was a naturalist, a utilitarian, and a liberal, whose work explores the consequences of a thoroughgoing empiricist outlook. In doing so, he sought to combine the best of eighteenth-century Enlightenment thinking with newly emerging currents of nineteenth-century Romantic and historical philosophy. His most important works include System of Logic (1843), On Liberty (1859), Utilitarianism (1861) and An Examination of Sir William Hamilton’s Philosophy (1865).

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1. Life

John Stuart Mill was born on 20 May 1806 in Pentonville, then a northern suburb of London, to Harriet Barrow and James Mill. James Mill, a Scotsman, had been educated at Edinburgh University—taught by, amongst others, Dugald Stewart—and had moved to London in 1802, where he was to become a friend and prominent ally of Jeremy Bentham and the Philosophical Radicals. John’s remarkable education, famously recounted in his Autobiography, was conducted with the intention of equipping him for leadership of the next generation of radicalism. For this, at least, it prepared him well. Starting with Greek at age three and Latin at age eight, Mill had absorbed most of the classical canon by age twelve—along with algebra, Euclid, and the major Scottish and English historians. In his early teenage years, he studied political economy, logic, and calculus, utilising his spare time to digest treatises on experimental science as an amusement. At age fifteen—upon returning from a year-long trip to France, a nation he would eventually call home—he started work on the major treatises of philosophy, psychology and government. All this was conducted under the strict daily supervision of his father—with young John holding primary responsibility for the education of his siblings (Reeves 2007: 11–27).

The intensity of study and weight of expectation took its toll. Mill had internalised the radical and utilitarian creed during his education—a process capped off with a close reading of Bentham

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INSERT: John Stuart Mill pp 79–103Cite as
Utilitarianism and Liberty
William Stafford
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Part of the British History in Perspective book series (BHP)
Abstract
In his essay Utilitarianism, Mill writes that The creed which accepts as the foundation of morals, Utility, or the Greatest Happiness Principle, holds that actions are right in proportion as they tend to promote happiness, wrong as they tend to produce the reverse of happiness’ (CW, vol. X, p. 210). By itself this formulation could have come from the pen of Utilitarianism’s founding father, Jeremy Bentham. We may unpack Bentham’s classic Utilitarianism into three central ideas. First, actions are judged right or wrong with reference to their consequences; Utilitarianism is a consequentialist moral theory. Actions are right if they produce good consequences, wrong if they produce bad ones. Second, good and bad ultimately mean happiness and unhappiness. Bentham’s Utilitarianism therefore is a form of hedonism. Third, in judging actions or types of actions, we are invited to add up the sum of happiness produced and the sum of unhappiness, and to compare the sums. The rightness is determined by the surplus of happiness over unhappiness. Utilitarianism, then, is an aggregative moral theory.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-349-26964-8_5
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in Dumont’s French translation and editorial responsibility for Bentham’s Rationale of Judicial Evidence—and had begun to put it into practise as a youthful propagandist. But he quickly found that his education had not prepared him for life. Mill suffered, aged twenty, a “mental crisis”.

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[I]t occurred to me to put the question directly to myself: “Suppose that all your objects in life were realized; that all the changes in institutions and opinions which you are looking forward to, could be completely effected at this very instant: would this be a great joy and happiness to you?” And an irrepressible self-consciousness distinctly answered, “No!” […] I seemed to have nothing left to live for. (Autobiography, I: 139).
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Mill’s malaise continued through 1826–7 (Capaldi 2004: 55ff.). Though such episodes were to recur throughout his life, his initial recovery was found in the poetry of the Romantics. A new side developed to Mill’s character, and he now emphasised the importance of the culture of the feelings as well as the need for social reform. Mill particularly valued Wordsworth during this period—though his new interests quickly led him to the work of Coleridge, Carlyle, and Goethe. Mill’s acquaintance with these thinkers gave him a lasting openness to Romantic thought—and an acute awareness that the Enlightenment philosophy with which he had been brought up only contained “one side of the truth” (Autobiography, I: 169). His primary philosophic goal became, and would throughout his life remain, to integrate and reconcile these opposing schools of philosophy. “[W]hoever could master the premises and combine the methods of both, would possess the entire English philosophy of their age” (Coleridge, X: 121).

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/mill/

In reading that i though wow what a start to life. The brilliance. Then on inching farther? more evidence for a thought i've often had. It goes something like: 'If i were smarter i probably would never have lasted to this age.' It first arose about 50 years ago. So many of their brilliance, you know, don't handle life. It's easier sometimes to lack things.

Thanks for bringing J.S. Mill back. Lot's to, umm, mull upon there.