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darron427

06/05/22 8:47 AM

#506 RE: NYBob #505

This is what I was talking about just the other day..

Satan, the Synagogue of Satan as the bible commonly referred to them, or scribes and Pharisees to some, changed and twisted the scriptures to try to get Christ himself to bow down to their own lies and prove that Jesus wasn't the prophetic Christ that many of the early bibles scriptures spoke of all the way back to the beginning. They quoted Abraham to try to trick him and make people believe that he wasn't the real Christ.. You hear certain sects of religion doing this EXACT same thing right now proclaiming themselves as "The Abrahamic lines still teaching that Christ is a prophet or false prophet.. Just like the bible said they'd come in the end time and deceive many"

They came at Christ using "Abrahamic" quotes , their belief in Abrahamic laws and teachings and actually tried to use the scriptures against Christ himself..

They misled, lied, just like they do today in many cults of religion that now proclaim themselves to be Christian.

Christianity in many wings and "denominations" has been fornicated and things that some sects of Christianity themselves, today , teach this that are not biblical. I'm not going to try to break them down but some of them fornicate and twist things about even the God head and makeup itself

They'll take one or a handful of scriptures out of context and build an entire cult of fornicated ideology around it.. Breaking off into small groups.. Most of these sects have came about in the last few centuries and they ALL believe or say ""Well we're right but you're wrong" and you have millions of people following these groups started up by this religious "sect" leader.. They've sectioned and dissected Christianity into so many venues and beliefs, that many Christians today won't even fellowship with other Christian groups or people because they believe a little different..

I've seen it many times over the years.. I've seen die hard Christian groups at churches that I've been to that preach hell and damnation and I've seen preachers get up in the pulpit and practically call out other people when they've visited those churches telling those people "If you don't believe like I do, then you're going to hell"..

Well, Frankly, I believe that those people that are intentionally or ignorantly leading people to believe things that are not based on the bible are going to hell. I don't believe for one second that the bible is wrong. I believe that people interpret things in the bible in the wrong way and then they end up teaching dogmatism and incorrect biblical teachings that aren't supported by God's word nor are of any sound doctrine or teaching..

I'm not directing this specifically at Christianity although that's the one I'm talking about right now, because it happens in all major "religious sects'..

This is why the bible tells people over and over to read, study, show yourself approved, a workman until God that need not be ashamed so that you can "Right divide the word of truth"..

The bible also tells you to "work out your own salvation WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING".. There's where people get into trouble. They work out their own salvation but they don't do it from the bible and they don't do it "trembling' at what God's word says will happen, when they do the wrong thing. When they teach people false doctrines or they twist the scriptures to fit their own ideals or just as bad or worse, they won't teach the bible..

That's the worst of it all in my opinion. They just won't teach the bible. They won't teach sound doctrine.. They are scared of offending people.. Pastors won't get into the bible and read it , understand it so that they can "rightly divide the word of truth" so for many years, they teach people things that aren't biblical nor of sound doctrine. They'd rather passify their flocks than offend them..Some of them even do it for money.. Some of them do it because they don't want to "bend" to the truth of what God requires of them and so they won't get deep into the word because they don't WANT to understand it.

Some of them just don't put in the time. Some don't have the skills to really understand it and some shouldn't be teaching or preaching at all unless they're willing to read the bible and understand it so that they don't teach people false things..

Every seed takes time to grow , but once you've been in the church for years, you have to grow. You have to read the bible so that you get a Godly type understanding of the scripture of what those things mean from a biblical perspective so that you recognize the signs of things around you and so that you'll know when a preacher or teacher is teaching something that isn't biblical..

They're not always teaching people the wrong thing because they're doing it with bad intent in their heart, but it takes time, due diligence and years to even start to begin to understand the bible and interpret it in a way that a Christian should. From a biblical perspective of what it actually means.. You have to somewhat understand biblical history and how it correlated to the time it was written and if you don't spend the time to understand some things in the bible that have to do with nations during bible times, and how they correlate with who - what nations - tribes those are today, then you won't understand bible prophecy at all .

Salvation and being saved and being drawn to God through Christ and the Holy Spirit, the Trinity are very important aspects of Christianity and the basis of what the Bible - Christian ideology teaches. People need to understand it in a biblical way and just as they need to understand that being Christian requires a lot more than going to church and jumping up and down and praising God on Sunday.

My old Aunt who was one of the most devout , best , Sweetest human beings that any person could ever meet or love, died a couple of years back. She was the sweetest most Christian like person you'd ever meet. She spent her live working for the Church and all she wanted was for people to understand the bible and be saved..

Nothing in life mattered to her more than helping people and teaching people about God's word. She was never dogmatic .. She was never went up to people and accosted them .. She always asked them to "'why don't you come to church with me on Sunday " , or she'd invite any stranger into her home, didn't matter if they were black or white , a dirt poor beggar, a crack head , preacher or a rich person. She didn't care about who had what or what they thought.

She lived a humble life her entire life.. Feeding the poor. Helping everybody she met.. Taking in elderly people and caring for some of them for free for years. Never getting a dime from any of it .. She lived off of her small pension and used it to pay the basic bills.. She hauled anyone that needed it back and forth to the doctor, to church , anywhere they needed to go that she could help..

If someone got sick, she ran to the hospital to take them whatever she could afford to take them. Food, snacks, sometimes it wasn't much , but just let them know that somebody cared. She went to the nursing homes for many years teaching on Sundays about God ( as did my parents until they couldn't do it any longer) .. They ministered in the jails and prison system. They went to other churches and worshipped there even though they didn't believe exactly the same.

As you become more and more Christ like , then you start to understand the bible and you start to truly understand that there are many aspects to Christianity.. I personally believe that there are many people that are better Christ like people , that don't go to church , than a WHOLE LOT of people that do although I do believe just like the bible and I believe that people need to be with other Christians to help them grow..

You have to work out your own Salvation WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING. You have to ask God , Is this what you want me to do? Teach me Lord , tell me what to do? Show me in the scripture what to do? Help me to understand it in the way that it is meant. We don't get it all right. We aren't all perfect. We just have to keep on trying.. No man is perfect as the bible says. God in Heaven is perfect .. But, we have to strive for perfection .. It's a hard target , and we won't reach it here , but when we go to church we have to hear with open ears what God is telling us and we have to read the bible.. '

My old pastor who died a few years back after over 70 years of teaching, always told people ""Read your bibles, bring your bibles to church" Read it when you get home, don't take my word for it, I'm not always right".. He was a great teacher and preacher by the way.. He didn't selectively choose and pick here and there what he taught. He "offended' many people over the years that came and left. Not because he was trying to , he was just teaching the bible. He taught it all.

Just like my old aunt who invited everyone to church with the sweetest of temperaments or my dad and mom who were that way. They asked you to come in and eat.. They invited people into their homes no matter what religion, color or belief and gave them a meal.. Didn't care if they were an old drunk, gay, straight or someone who had done all sorts of things. Then they invited them to church.

You teach people the bible. When those people came to church, my aunt was a preacher ( many people don't believe women can be preachers or pastors) but this woman was a preacher. When people got to church, they heard God's word if she was up front. People loved her and they knew she was a Christian. . They knew just what to expect when she preached.. She preached prophecy and she preached hell fire and damnation and people, Christians , EVERYBODY she knew loved her.. Same with my parents. Because they were Christ like. They showed Christian love no matter to who not caring how "bad" these people were in the eyes of other people , even Christians, who looked down upon them.

Like my old pastor used to say ""you can't be a Christian if your light down shine" or " if you hide your light under a bushel" as those old Christian church songs we were taught as children talked about.

Don't let false prophets tempt you and teach you the wrong things. Don't take everything I say as 100% correct. I talk about things that I believe based on the bible. I don't consider myself to be baptist Methodist or any other sect or religion. I consider myself to be a human being that believes the bible .. I believe in God , I believe that Christ is the true sent from heaven son of the Almighty , I believe in the Holy spirit and the Holy trinity.

I believe that for you and me to make it to heaven we have to try as hard as we can and that when we make ugly mistakes, we have to pray.. We have to pray daily and ask God to guide us and help us to understand the bible and most of all, "Work out our own salvation WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING".. That's the key.. The fear of God. The fear of the almighty. It's not a scare tactic. The bible and God isn't trying to scare people. It's trying to tell us what will happen if we do good, and it's telling us what's going to happen if we do bad..

God vs Devil mean Good vs Evil ..
Notice the similarities in the spelling


Sorry that wasn't mean to be a sermon but the pastor is right.. The temptation of Christ is a very good representation of what these people are doing today. They come in the name of God and Good , pretending to do good, but their intent is to deceive and destroy.. They are truly representative of "The Anti-Christ' the spirt of deceit that the bible talks about will fool billions in the end time.
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darron427

06/05/22 11:37 AM

#507 RE: NYBob #505

This is going to be my REAL Sermon for the day.. (excuse all typos and mistakes as usual , my vision is blurry today) lol

Over the years, and particularly back when I was younger, when I went to church all the time , there were always people in and out of the church.. I've been to several for periods myself.

I've met likely thousands of people over the years in various churches and denominations. I've see people I know change churches so many times over the years, they did nothing but cause problems in every church they went to. They couldn't agree with anybody. , Couldn't get along with anybody.

I remember this one old lady that came and went, made the rounds to pretty much all of the local churches and every place she went, somehow something that somebody did ( mostly the pastor preaching her the truth) gave her some reason to be offended.. She came through my own home church more than several times over the years.

I've seen entire families do the same thing. Go from one church to the other being offended , spreading tales and gossip about people. Mostly people they barely even knew muchless knew anything about. I could give you many specific examples..

There's this one family that came through when I was younger, they spent a few years in the church, some of the family came and went .. Most of them left years back, but some of them came in and out over the years along with the surviving parents. Always into something .. These were the people that were always the trouble makers.

I'm not going to talk about their children ( who are now adults some in my age range, younger or order) but they were always spreading gossip about the preacher or other people in the church. I don't know if they just completely ignored what their own family members did, or they were just gossiping to throw the suspicion off themselves. But some of their family members to this day constantly go around telling the same tales about other people in the church that they've been spreading for as long as I can remember.

Regretfully , after I got out of school and got out on my own, I went to another church for a couple of years in my area and made friends with people, I guess wanting to see the other side of things, but I enjoyed the church to some degree .. I participated in some things there, met some new people.

Over the course of that year or so, I saw so many things happening in the church I just couldn't understand , but I stayed there a while because I liked the church and the pastor.

There was this one family there that was a wealthy family. I was friends with a couple of the boys at the time and they just seemed like they were the nicest people you'd ever meet upon interacting with them. Over the course of the months i was there, they started to reveal themselves. They gossiped and talked about EVERYBODY .. These people had so much money they practically built this very nice church..

People came to the church and boy these people ate their lunch. "She's a whore, she's got x babies, he's a queer , blah , blah , blah.. Something ALL the time.. They were trashing SOMEBODY about something all the time. If it wasn't the "sinners" it was the preacher or somebody else in the church that they didn't like..

They left this church not long after I did, and returned to another church where they had spent many years, but left because they couldn't get along with those people. A couple of years later, they left THAT church (again) , They built another church ( these people have lots of money) Same thing. The churches went through pastors and people like ""I go through underwear' as the old saying goes..

They stayed in their own church a while, then some left, others stayed.. Over the years their own family flock continued to multiply . When they weren't fighting with each other , they were fighting with the pastor.. Greedy folks. The pastors and church leaders would try to take their position and lead the church, these people would get mad about something, usually money, and fire them .. I've never seen churches go through this many preachers..

Finally , they left that church, built a HUGE church and the flock grew, but same story, people came and went constantly. When they left, it nearly always had SOMETHING to do with this family.. These people running the pastors off time and time again ..

Mind you, they practically built these churches and they were constantly getting ran off from them. The same thing happened again recently. The signed onto one of these organizations and then didn't want to abide by the rules.. It's same teachings as all of their other churches, but they wanted to control the money. Same thing happened not a couple months ago., Finally the pastor and congregation had it out with them, and they once again flew the coupe. They are now , once again, right back at that church were they originally started and it was a church that they gave much money to over the years also.. One of the early families there..

These people are very influential. One of them is even a preacher now, but they cause nothing but hell and mayhem no matter where they go.. They spread gossip and rumors , cause issues in every church they go to.. They've very influential in the church and community.. Large and expanding family and fortune.. I'm not talking average rich, I'm talking entire family is seeded with a fortune

All I can think about when I think about them now, is all of the evil that they've sewn over the years.. All of the lies they've spread and trouble they've caused for other people, All the gossip and trouble they've caused. Against pastors and "Whores" and people they accused of being gay and druggies and all sorts of things. I look at their own families and I think about what the bible said about reaping what you sew. Their daughters and sons today , and grand children, are doing the exact same things that I heard them accuse other people of over the years.. Some of them on drugs, having children with people that their own parents "dispise' , They've fought against their own children.. I've heard them trash their own famil;y members and people that married their own children and grand children calling them trash and this and that.. Their own children and grand children, have done the EXACT same things that they've spread about other people.

I've seen it happen time and time again over the years. This is why I now always think of my own mom when I hear people doing these things. When people would tell my mom something about someone , accusing people of all sorts of "improprieties", my mom would say "you shouldn't be saying that, you don't know what people have going on in their lives and you know how people love to gossip and tell lies".. And just like the other day when I posted about "speaking demons into existence'. I believe that we do.. I believe that the more you accuse people of things, the more you talk about these things, the more your children hear you talk about other people in derragatory and demeaning ways, that your children build a curiosity up about those things.

You go around talking about people calling people that are down on their luck, openly calling them things like whores , drunks , prostitutes and all sorts of other things, that you're speaking bad things into their lives, and at the same time, you're speaking them into existence in your own life. You're speaking them into existence into the minds of your own children and the more that you do, the more likely they are to manifest in their lives whether openly, or hiddenly .. Children are curious. When you talk about things openly in front of them , they have a natural curiousity to want to know more. You have to be very careful what you talk about in public or allow your children to see and hear on a daily basis.. The more they hear about these things, the more "normal" they start to sound to them. The more they start to accept them as just a part of life.

I believe that's why some of these people today who go from church to church, spreading gossip, telling all the things they do about other people, have so many of the same issues in their own families. Like this one gossiping family. Everybody is a whore, a slut, a faggot or something bad in their eyes because that's all they want to see.. They are a very influential family. EVERYBODY knows them. If I mentioned their names in a tri-county area, a very large portion of people know them either from church, gov't or financially . They know that many people .. A lot of people that don't know them well, believe ever rumor they repeat. People in the church who know them well, steer clear of them. They've been thrown out of church after church or left for one reason or the other time and time again , just for this reason.. Because every where they go, they gossip and "sew discord among the brethren" ..Over the years, it's made me wish I had never met some of them..

I'm saying this because everyone that goes to church isn't Christ like. A lot of people have this "holier than thou" attitude or as the old saying goes , they think their own stuff don't stink and everyone else's does. Just remember and understand that just because someone goes to church doesn't mean you should believe everything they say and money does not make a person better or worse. Don't let false prophets deceive you just because they look like upstanding citizens. Don't let people IN the church deceive you either or make you believe that they're Christians or that what they're doing , necessarily represents God or the truth either. You should believe your bible and like my old mother always said, steer clear of gossiping demons whether they go to church or not because most of the time, in the end, they're trying to coverup their own fornications of the truth. Just don't let these people make you believe that they represent God. They don't. A lot of Devils go to church and a lot of people think they're angels.. Until they get to know them