Okay, I had like 5 paragraphs written out on your response but I shit canned it being too wordy and non pragmatic.
Only that we go back a long way on this website and are on the same page on just about everything else except this thread.
Just saying here, with the doom and gloom and negative Biden on this conflict (which you are) you leave little room on this thread for anyone to find any other conclusions than mostly defeatist. Which is your right.
I'm not willing to throw the duck out of the pond over one thread.
This thread is just a small part of disagreement, not a whole.
I'll try not to let one thread get the better of me or you.