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[ForReal]

I dare say if Israel was up against the wall you may well sing a different tune

Looks like that won't be too far into the future. Iran, with the help of Biden initiatives, will soon be a menace to Isreal and the world.

Biden Shatters Israel's Delusions

Both before the talks were initiated in Vienna, and since the talks commenced, in the interests of convincing Iran to agree to a deal, Biden ended enforcement of the most significant sanctions Trump had placed on Iran's nuclear operations. He delisted Iran's Yemeni proxy, the Houthis, from the State Department's formal list of foreign terrorist organizations. And Biden convinced U.S. allies to unfreeze Iranian funds held in their banks due to Iran's sponsorship of terrorism, in the hopes of proving his benign intentions to the ayatollahs.

But then, last Wednesday, Gabriel Noronha, a former Iran specialist at the State Department, published details of the concessions Malley has already agreed to on his Twitter feed. Noronha wrote that he received the details of the U.S. concessions from his former colleagues at the State Department and National Security Council, as well as from the European Union delegations to the talks. Noronha wrote that his associates, all "career" officers rather than political appointees, "are so concerned with the concessions being made by Rob Malley in Vienna that they've allowed me to publish some details of the coming deal in the hopes that Congress will act to stop the capitulation."

Malley's capitulation includes delisting Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps from the State Department's list of Foreign Terror Organizations and ending U.S. sanctions on Iran's senior terror masters—including the terror chiefs responsible for the massacre of 241 U.S. Marines at the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 and the 1994 bombing of the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires in 1994, where 85 people were killed.

Malley has agreed to end sanctions on 112 entities and people tied to Iranian dictator Ali Khamenei, through which Khamenei has accrued massive wealth and organized Iran's global terror and weapons procurement networks. Malley is willing to end sanctions on Iranian entities and individuals involved in the torture and murder of Iranian civilians.

All told, Noronha's colleagues said Malley has agreed to sanctions relief that will provide Iran with an immediate cash infusion of $90 billion, as well as an additional $50-55 billion annually in oil and gas profits.

On the nuclear front, beyond a few formalities, Biden's deal will enable Iran to move full-speed ahead with its development of advanced centrifuges and continue its race to the nuclear finish line. All limitations—which are largely unenforceable—will be removed in two and a half years. And Iran's nuclear program, which constitutes a material breach of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty of which Iran is a signatory, will be legitimated by the UN and the U.S. government.

All of these concessions guarantee two consequences. First, Iran will go to war. As U.S. Army Col. (res.) Joel Rayburn, who served as Trump's envoy to Syria and in a range of senior positions related to the Middle East in Central Command, the National Security Council and the State Department explained in a recent interview with Newsweek, with the JCPOA's implementation in 2015, Iran received billions of dollars in sanctions relief. It used the funds to expand its wars against Israel, against U.S. forces deployed in the Middle East and against Iran's Sunni Arab neighbors the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Iran fought its various foes both directly and through its proxies in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.

The $90 billion that Malley and his colleagues in the Biden administration are poised to now give Iran guarantee that Iran will massively escalate its aggression against these actors.

The second consequence of the new nuclear deal is that Iran will become a nuclear-armed state unless Israel attacks and destroys a sufficient number of Iran's nuclear installations to significantly scale back Iran's nuclear capabilities.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-shatters-israel-s-delusions-opinion/ar-AAUIXkh?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Looks like we will soon have another (and crazier) bully to back down from, not to long into the future.

[SoxFan]

were you against the Iraq war? It was a strategic blunder of the first order. We looked totally incompetent in both the Afghan invasion and in Iraq. We did more damage and created millions of refugees. I didn't hear Russians calling for a no-fly zone nor did Europe accept any refugees like now. War has been man's history and now that we have nuclear bombs that would potentially eliminate mankind through deadly radiation levels from two nuclear powers throwing over 10,000 nuclear weapons with enormous kill power. How can any sane person even consider ratcheting up the threat level? Especially when we have not used all other ways to put more pressure on Putin.

[brooklyn13]

Good Lord, you're daft, please leave me alone.

Although I usually don't put people on ignore because I like to hear all opinions, it's pointless to try to deal with your diatribes.

No one in the American military agrees with your crazy statements about sending American soldiers over there to fight. When you went to West Point were they teaching this kind of stuff or are you, you know, just full of shite?

If you can't provide a link to substantiate anything you posit about what people are thinking, or pertinent military strategizing, then we're just dealing with brain farts, so on ignore you go.